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#4447511 - 11/08/18 02:28 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: bisher]  
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Originally Posted by bisher
Ikes Blade_M sounds like you have had a bad experience


It is what it is. No hard feelings. I just want people to know to steer clear of VEAO in any way shape or form or on any platform as you may never get what you pay for. Of course the main excuses I have received in the last almost 4 years on the ED Forums is, well ED keeps changing DCS and, VEAO is comprised of producers who do this in their spare time so you should expect long development cycles. Really, common that is just stupid. Almost 4 years and nothing has been produced for the 40$ I spent with them. That speaks for itself. ED allowing this also speaks for itself. My only recourse is to re post the above statement about once a month on key DCS Forums so others can avoid what I have experienced. yep I have it saved on my Desk top as a a text file titled " SCAM" so I won't forget. I have a memory like an elephant. winkngrin

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#4447527 - 11/08/18 07:17 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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I have to agree , VEAO with its #%&*$# hawk show is something that makes any other my modules feel awesome even with bugs biggrin


Only module that was uber #%&*$# is VEAO HAWK , its uber messy pile of crap even today.



And VEAO still just gives #%&*$# exuces..



But DCS is getting better, progress is slow but its fun sim now.


And it would be least 20% better if ED just kick VEAO's ass out of door.



SHORT GUIDE TO DCS :

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM VEAO. Remember that and you are good smile


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#4447534 - 11/08/18 09:14 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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worth coming back to?
nope, give it a miss. Even the crappy hornet release has not convinced me to dust off the HOTAS warthog.
maybe when the tomcat comes out after alpha\beta I might consider plugging the stick\throttles back into the usb ports....

#4447535 - 11/08/18 09:15 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: Haukka81]  
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Originally Posted by Haukka81
I have to agree , VEAO with its #%&*$# hawk show is something that makes any other my modules feel awesome even with bugs biggrin


Only module that was uber #%&*$# is VEAO HAWK , its uber messy pile of crap even today.



And VEAO still just gives #%&*$# exuces..



But DCS is getting better, progress is slow but its fun sim now.


And it would be least 20% better if ED just kick VEAO's ass out of door.



SHORT GUIDE TO DCS :

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM VEAO. Remember that and you are good smile






I'm quite sure you have trolled my posts regarding the hawk over the years during and after my scathing review....I saved this post for future reference.

#4447536 - 11/08/18 09:16 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: bisher]  
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Originally Posted by bisher
I look forward to upgrading to 16 Gbs ram and an SSD

I can play basic missions with little or no performance issues

Load times are a pain, I recall after one of the updates load times had significantly improved. Not so much after the next update smile


^^ one of the very few actually productive posts you have made bisher....keep up the good work.

#4447583 - 11/08/18 03:27 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: Winfield]  
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What you mean ?
Originally Posted by Winfield
Originally Posted by Haukka81
I have to agree , VEAO with its #%&*$# hawk show is something that makes any other my modules feel awesome even with bugs biggrin


Only module that was uber #%&*$# is VEAO HAWK , its uber messy pile of crap even today.



And VEAO still just gives #%&*$# exuces..



But DCS is getting better, progress is slow but its fun sim now.


And it would be least 20% better if ED just kick VEAO's ass out of door.



SHORT GUIDE TO DCS :

DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM VEAO. Remember that and you are good smile






I'm quite sure you have trolled my posts regarding the hawk over the years during and after my scathing review....I saved this post for future reference.


??

Im not sure what you mean.

When i first got hawk i was quite optimistic , but not anymore.

Other modules = hornet , viggen , and mirage are great. Get updates etc..

You sound like ICE2 ..


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#4447656 - 11/08/18 10:16 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: Winfield]  
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Originally Posted by Winfield
Originally Posted by bisher
I look forward to upgrading to 16 Gbs ram and an SSD

I can play basic missions with little or no performance issues

Load times are a pain, I recall after one of the updates load times had significantly improved. Not so much after the next update smile


^^ one of the very few actually productive posts you have made bisher....keep up the good work.


lol Winfield you're a real sweetheart smile

I like to think my screenshot posts are a little more productive than the post you are referring to



#4447710 - 11/09/18 02:33 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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So, after upgrading my config for a 8086K oced at 5ghz all cores (together with a GTX1800, 16GB RAM and DCS on SSD), I thought it was time to revisit DCS in VR. It works fine, mostly, although I don't think it performs as well as Il2 BOS - in fact, my main test was to see whether I could finally fly on the Normandy map and the answer is still a big NO. While I get a smooth experience elsewhere, the Normandy map is a stutter and low fps mess. How is the new map of the Strait of Hornuz in terms of performance: does it perform more like the Georgia/Nevada maps or like Normandy? I don't fly non VR anymore, so anything that performs like the Normandy is useless to me.

#4447742 - 11/09/18 07:59 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: FlyingMonkey]  
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Strait of hornuz runs fine, only dubai is bit heavy but your system will be just fine.

Even my medicore system runs it great.


Its quite nice map.


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#4447775 - 11/09/18 03:42 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: FlyingMonkey]  
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Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey
How is the new map of the Strait of Hornuz in terms of performance: does it perform more like the Georgia/Nevada maps or like Normandy? I don't fly non VR anymore, so anything that performs like the Normandy is useless to me.

Just for reference, SoH was renamed to the Persian Gulf map. It runs well for me, I'm currently making a campaign (slowly) on the map with a fair amount of units and I'm not having any issues with performance. The only exception being setting clouds to 10, which destroyed my FPS.

On the other hand I don't have any issues with Normandy, but I've only really used it for free flights given the state of the WWII AI.

#4448188 - 11/12/18 12:49 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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For those running Normandy fine, is that in VR though? I'm doing fine performance wise on monitor, but in VR it's a mess - I can't even run it fine forcing motion smoothing on because the fps seems to rarely hold at 45 and instead dip far below that. That's just in free flight, without AI (don't get me started on that...).

#4448284 - 11/12/18 03:16 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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I don't fly VR, so if the discrepancy between monitor and VR is very large with that map that could explain the difference in performance that I'm seeing.

#4448375 - 11/13/18 01:00 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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Yeah, that's it then - depending on how it's implemented VR fps can be less than half of monitor fps, and for DCS you need at least 45fps (ideally 90, but below that there are methods that approximate the missing frames) or it's a mess. It looks like I don't get that most of the time for Normandy while I'm fine in most case on the Georgia or Nevada map. I certainly won't risk purchasing the Persian gulf at this stage.

#4448419 - 11/13/18 06:29 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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Persian gulf runs even better than caucasus (less trees etc.. , lots of sand ) , only dubai is bit heavy to fps.


Least in my potato rig.


I fly only VR.


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#4448981 - 11/16/18 01:46 AM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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Cool, good to know that it's not all new maps that are unplayable in VR - I guess until DCS has a better implementation of collisions for trees, desert is the way to go. I wish we had a ww2 North Africa map. Anyway, I'm not going to go back to DCS much yet - in the more distant future maybe, if we ever go towards theatres, career/campaigns that start making it an actual immersive combat sim - until then I think I'll keep flying circuits and one off missions with what I've got.

#4455390 - 12/30/18 03:00 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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I am just starting to enjoy DCS again with the release of the hornet. I have been flying Xplane 11, FSX, FSW, and Warthunder in sim mode since retiring all of the Janes Titles I used in the late 90's.
I only just revived my SimHQ login. I can say for myself I am very much enjoying DCS and that is on a computer i built in 2014.
i7 4770 @3.9Ghz, Asus Z93C , Asus GTX770, DDR3 16Gb Corsair vengence, samsung SSD 840_EVO_120G. dual AOC 27"144htz 1 ms

I also have DCS installed on a WD 1tb HDD. Im only getting 30-35fps @1920x1080 with minimal stutters. but I really enjoy it
So my advice to you is go for it.

Though be warned, it will encourage you to upgrade your hardware! well in my case anyhow..

Check Six,
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#4455412 - 12/30/18 07:48 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: JCathcart]  
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I have to admit. In the recent weeks since VEAO shut up shop, I downloaded DCS again and purchased Persian Gulf.
Razbams harrier is on sale and I thought Id give it a go. I've actually been enjoying both modules.
Harrier has a couple of sound bugs here and there but overall it has been quite entertaining.
Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.

#4455433 - 12/30/18 10:02 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: Winfield]  
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Originally Posted by Winfield

Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.


Is that happening?


I debated a flat earther once. He got so mad he stormed off saying he would walk to the edge of the earth and prove me wrong. He'll come around eventually.
#4455434 - 12/30/18 10:08 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: Chucky]  
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Originally Posted by Chucky
Originally Posted by Winfield

Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.


Is that happening?


On razbams website it is. No idea about the ED forums.

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#4455441 - 12/30/18 11:35 PM Re: Is DCS worth coming back to? [Re: Winfield]  
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Originally Posted by Chucky
Originally Posted by Winfield

Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.


Is that happening?


a map that included the southern half of Chile and the whole of Argentina as well as the Falklands and South Georgia perhaps ?
maybe extending north to RAF Ascension Island so that we could have a Vulcan bomber for Black Buck missions
and maybe a Sea King helicopter as well for the SAS Commando Raid that crashed in Chile.
that would be epic.

Originally Posted by Winfield
I have to admit. In the recent weeks since VEAO shut up shop, I downloaded DCS again and purchased Persian Gulf.
Razbams harrier is on sale and I thought Id give it a go. I've actually been enjoying both modules.
Harrier has a couple of sound bugs here and there but overall it has been quite entertaining.
Persian gulf is a clear favourite until Razbam release The faulklands then we will see.


Razbam like Carenado is based in Latin America, but I have no idea where.

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