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#4440398 - 09/23/18 12:02 PM Cfs3 exe keeps crashing  
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Hi,

After installing everything again, i experience the following issue.

Created a New Pilot, went to the field, loading screen Pops up, Engine Sound Kicks in and,..... nothing. After 2 minutes I „Hit escape“ WOTR teils me cfs3 exe crashes. I should Check my c++ files.
Or the Message appears immediatly After „Go to Field“.

Ideas?

Did a Research on the Forums, all off and woff related, showing Problems with cfs3 Installation and win7. But here is no cfs3 Installation. During the Installation i have had my av turned off.

Last edited by LtCasey; 09/23/18 12:03 PM.

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#4440399 - 09/23/18 12:15 PM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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Install DX9 as per section 4 of WOTR FAQ,
Windows 10?

Try setting cfs3.exe compatibility Windows7 compatibility (or if that fails try the others WIndows 8, or Vista SP2 etc and test each one).
Also if all those fail remove any setting you tried , then set CFS3.exe to "run as an administrator" setting.,


Maybe send your logs and system info to support as per last pages of the WOTR FAQ


Regards,

Polovski,
OBD Software, developers of immersive flight sims;
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#4440474 - 09/23/18 09:22 PM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: Polovski]  
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Thx Pol, Great Support as always!

I have had it installed correctly. Setting cfs3 exe to compatibility did the trick.

But I had to fiddel with it. Didnt work for my native os, Win 7 ultimate. Vista SP 2 was the right one. Setting to admin causes the exe to crash. Also does my Avast av Block it. Guess the av Software is a Major hickup in this progress and Setting the cfs3 exe to compatibility should be added to the install instructions.

Thx again and regards


"What the hell do I care, I know I got them!" Raul Lufberry

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#4440482 - 09/23/18 10:16 PM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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I found setting Compatibility to Win 8 did the trick for me.


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#4440547 - 09/24/18 12:52 PM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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Hi to all. I have still issues with the CFS3.exe. Managed to get the sim running once, after tweaking WOTR and CFS3.exe compability settings. Running as admin, compability mode Windows 7, disable visual schemes, disable desktop composition. Same settings I had to chose to get WOFF UE working, and this is still running fine.
Did some short test flights, everything was nice, was looking forward for upcoming flights in the BoB setting...
Next time I had time to do some flying CFS3 crashed. Windows message states "CFS3 stopped working". A text appeares "Outcomes File Not Found!" and the request to check for completeness of C++ runtime DLL. Did this, with no positive results starting CFS3. DirectX9 files are reinstalled. Did a reinstall of WOTR, same result.

I am running on Win 7 Ultimate, AMD R9 390 graphics card, Radeon driver 16.11.5 works with WOFF UE w/o problems.

Deactivated anti virus programs. Have no mods installed. Fiddeling with other compability settings does not help either. Must be something that changed on my system after the first run, but I am somewhat helpless where to look...


Any thoughts?

LD

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#4440573 - 09/24/18 02:31 PM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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The "Outcomes File Not Found!" is result of CFS3 crash. Next time you normally end CFS3 session (Ctrl+Q) this warning should not appear.

#4440626 - 09/24/18 07:14 PM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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Did you also try Win8 or Vista Sp2 compatibility?
Seems some people need to do this on Windows 10. Windows 10 is so random I don't use any compatibility settings here and it works fine.


Regards,

Polovski,
OBD Software, developers of immersive flight sims;
Wings Over Flanders Fields and Wings Over The Reich
http://www.overflandersfields.com
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#4440708 - 09/25/18 08:53 AM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: JJJ65]  
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Originally Posted by JJJ65
The "Outcomes File Not Found!" is result of CFS3 crash. Next time you normally end CFS3 session (Ctrl+Q) this warning should not appear.

Can confirm, I've had this happen under the same circumstances.


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#4445561 - 10/26/18 05:58 PM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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Hej to all of you, would like to bring this thread up again.
Still got issues with WOTR, not able to enter a single mission, although initially it worked after buying WOTR and first installing, but only for few missions. After that something must have gone wrong on my system...

Currently trying to find again an AMD driver possibly supporting WOTR on my machine, as I guess that the problem could still ly here... The driver working with WOFF UE is not working with WOTR, the latest drivers are not working with both programs at all.

Anybody here using an AMD card successfully with WOTR? Would you point out your version of driver, please?

Tried all other tips so far, thank you for support Pol, but no success. Next solution would be a change of OS to Win10 (from Win7) or buying a NVidia card...

Last edited by LowDrag; 10/26/18 06:13 PM.
#4445569 - 10/26/18 06:26 PM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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Sorry, no help from my side. Although I use Win 7 64, I have switched to Nvidia (GTX1060 6GB) three months ago.

#4445582 - 10/26/18 08:07 PM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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Odd randomness and you have ATI Radeon GPU things to try some have helped others (seems to depend on too many variables with different versions of ATI drivers working, not working, working etc)

Try the following, one at a time, then test each one, to see if it helps.

Some windows installations (especially Windows 10 !) have odd permissions issues so see 1 and 2 ..


1) For WOTR.exe, compatibility tab, set to "run as an administrator" in C:\OBDSoftware\WOTR\OBDWW2 Wings Over The Reich
(look to where you installed to, if different from the above default location).

WOTR.exe, right click on it, go to properties, Compatibility tab, set to "run as an administrator"

2) Set CFS3.exe (in the same folder as WOTR.exe) to Windows 7. If that doesn't work try Windows 8, and if no go then try XP SP3)
2a) Try above but if it doesn't run, then remove Windows 7 compatibility setting, and instead try compatibility set to "run as an administrator"
2b) (remove if it doesn't work)

3) Install DX9 again properly. See FAQ for Step by step.

4) Set game resolution to different setting than max

5) Turn off FreeSync (set to off) in AMD driver settings under Display.

6) Try editing WOTRScenery\ShadersDX9\d3d8.ini and on the 3rd line add a semi colon before UseD3D9Ex=1
so it reads:
[D3D8]
; DX9 Extended Mode - Does not work on XP
; UseD3D9Ex=1
save, if using notepad change file type to *.* to allow saving as .ini (not .txt).

7) Try adding
WindowedMode=1
to a new line at the end of D3D8.ini

8) Install the latest ATI drivers for your video card.

9) Try a different ATI driver version

10) Also try turning Enhanced Sync off in AMD driver settings under Display

11) Buy NVIDIA cough


Regards,

Polovski,
OBD Software, developers of immersive flight sims;
Wings Over Flanders Fields and Wings Over The Reich
http://www.overflandersfields.com
http://www.wingsoverthereich.com
#4445638 - 10/27/18 02:13 AM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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FWIW, I'm running an AMD RX 480 with 18.10.2 drivers, and not experiencing any problems with WOFF or WOTR. Your 16.11.5 drivers are a little dated, and there were a number of documented problems with that driver release. As Pol suggested, try the latest drivers.


Last edited by BirdDogICT; 10/27/18 02:24 AM. Reason: Additonal info

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#4445812 - 10/28/18 07:14 AM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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Gentlemen, thanks to all of you four, for your kind answers, really appreciated!

JJJ65, I thought you would still be an AMD guy. And yes it is indeed Win7 64, maybe the Win7 compatibility setting is redundant...

Took all of your feedback and worked a lot with my WOFF/WOTR setup, allthough I had somewhat gaven up before...

Finally went again to the newest driver once more, allthough this one (18.10.2) was not working with WOFF and WOTR before and had settled to 17.5.2, as at least WOFF was running with these... As the newest were working for you BirdDogICT, I changed to them again and did all the tips of you gave me, Pol, once more, fiddling with a lot of workshop settings aswell.

Compatibility mode WinXP SP3 finally did the trick, running as admin, with graphics at 16 bit depth in lieu for 32 bit... (32 works sometimes but not allways, at 16 CFS3 crashes with the beforementioned symptoms, strange, but at least I have a setup that works now).
Tada- WOTR is running now, juhu! Now I have to fiddle again with WOFF, this one has the issue with the black screen upon launching, with the sim working audibly.

Thanks for your support guys! Up now, flying!!

#4445871 - 10/28/18 03:52 PM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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Maybe for WOFF try 16 bit graphics too with that driver?


Regards,

Polovski,
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Wings Over Flanders Fields and Wings Over The Reich
http://www.overflandersfields.com
http://www.wingsoverthereich.com
#4446160 - 10/30/18 11:27 AM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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Tried this Pol, same result so far. Fiddeling with different settings, hope to find any working setup for WOFF aswell again. For the time being no success. Will report...

#4447153 - 11/06/18 01:16 AM Re: Cfs3 exe keeps crashing [Re: LtCasey]  
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This is the same problem I am having: CFS3 stops then the not completed file pops up My old Vid card NVIDIA Ge force 570 GTX was dying so picked up a XFX AMD 550 RX 4 GB ( because of money and my Watts are only 400 ) Installed the drivers from the WEB Trouble ever since with both WOFF UE and WOTR. The games dont play just Crash. I have not tryed a re-install as yet nor the AMD start up drivers which came with the card. I agree with LowDrag its probably a Driver thats causing the Mess. If any one knows which ones work please help ! I would like to try the Compatibility with CFS 3 Exe, but dont know how. Over the last few years, I never had trouble with WOFF or recently WOTR til I switched Cards / drivers so it cant be Win 7 system


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