#4443013 - 10/09/18 04:31 PM
Is DCS worth coming back to?
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JCathcart
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Hello gents (and ladies, if any),
I currently have a moderately-powered rig with an Intel® Core i3-8100 Processor (6M Cache, 3.60 GHz), with a GeForce 1060 (6GB RAM) and 16GB of RAM.
I haven't messed with DCS for a year or so, but have been tempted by the new F-18 and Persian Gulf map (and the forthcoming F-14...due out sometime before 2045).
Should I even bother? I've heard that the sim is all but unplayable unless you have 32GB of RAM. Can that possibly be true?
If so, does DCS have any plans on optimizing their code to run better on a regular ol' computer?
Also, I only have 110GB of free HD space. How much does DCS World and just the F-18 and Persian Gulf map take up?
Thanks in advance for your thoughtful responses guys, I appreciate your input.
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand." -- Ephesians 6: 12-13 KJV
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#4443028 - 10/09/18 05:52 PM
Re: Is DCS worth coming back to?
[Re: JCathcart]
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Exorcet
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Hello gents (and ladies, if any),
I currently have a moderately-powered rig with an Intel® Core i3-8100 Processor (6M Cache, 3.60 GHz), with a GeForce 1060 (6GB RAM) and 16GB of RAM.
I haven't messed with DCS for a year or so, but have been tempted by the new F-18 and Persian Gulf map (and the forthcoming F-14...due out sometime before 2045).
Should I even bother? I've heard that the sim is all but unplayable unless you have 32GB of RAM. Can that possibly be true? [Un]fortunately, I decided to build my PC with 32 GB of RAM because I got a pretty good deal on it. I haven't tried to install on my other computer, but it's a laptop anyway. All I can really say on this is that I don't recall seeing DCS using over half of my RAM, but obviously take the word of someone with a 16GB machine over mine. Your graphics card is newer mine (970) so assuming you don't get bogged down on RAM you should be able to run on medium-high settings depending on your resolution and preferences. I've had good performance with 2.5 since launch, my biggest gripe would be a bit more slow down than I'd like on larger missions with lots of planes in the air, although I did this primarily in earlier patches. I haven't done a stress test on the current release, but it feels a little better. If so, does DCS have any plans on optimizing their code to run better on a regular ol' computer? There has been some talk about optimization, most recently upgrading to Vulkan API, which should improve performance in general. I don't know if this will result in lowered recommended settings though. I don't really know much about the current status of this work. Also, I only have 110GB of free HD space. How much does DCS World and just the F-18 and Persian Gulf map take up? I can't check on my machine right now, but from some other users, it sounds like over 25 GB: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=208789https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=206340I say over because the map was recently updated and is probably larger than it was when those posts were made. 110 should be enough for a map and a module. I believe you can also download them both before buying, you just won't be able to use them.
Last edited by Exorcet; 10/09/18 06:10 PM.
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#4443112 - 10/10/18 03:54 AM
Re: Is DCS worth coming back to?
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malibu43
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DCS runs great for me, including the Hornet. Specs in my sig (in other words, no you don't need 32GB of RAM).
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#4443121 - 10/10/18 06:08 AM
Re: Is DCS worth coming back to?
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DCS runs great for me, including the Hornet. Specs in my sig (in other words, no you don't need 32GB of RAM). On what settings though...
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#4443214 - 10/10/18 08:52 PM
Re: Is DCS worth coming back to?
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DCS runs great for me, including the Hornet. Specs in my sig (in other words, no you don't need 32GB of RAM). On what settings though... Medium or high mostly. I don't have it all in front of me. Whatever the settings, they are good enough to make the sim look amazing and run smoothly (or smooth enough for me). I should add that I do have DCS installed on a SSD. Helped a lot with some stutters.
Last edited by malibu43; 10/10/18 09:54 PM.
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#4443233 - 10/11/18 12:13 AM
Re: Is DCS worth coming back to?
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The base install of 2.5.3 plus only the Hornet module is 83 GB in space. I second the recommendation for a SSD, even better a M.2 Nvme drive. Having flown in IL2 1946, IL2 BOS , ROF and MS FS X, I would say that DCS 2.5.3 is coming along very nicely. The VR experience is now about the same as IL2 BOS (which means it is excellent) and the sim is compatible with the Oculus Rift, HTC Vive and Vive Pro, Samsung Odyssey and others headsets. (But you will need a good system to take advantage of VR)
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#4446376 - 10/31/18 06:52 PM
Re: Is DCS worth coming back to?
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Another vote for SSD. If nothing else, DCS often has some VERY long load times, especially after an update is run, so an SSD is a huge help here. As other have said, bench mark using the free version first.
Also, as a hornet owner, I'd say it's a must have (even in it's current state) if you're a huge fan of the aircraft and naval aviation in general. There's still a lot of stuff coming, but enough to keep one busy (even just learning the finer points of carrier based aviation), and basic A2A and A2G operations. I'll simply say that I'm having fun with it, and feel my money is well spent.
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#4446560 - 11/02/18 01:32 AM
Re: Is DCS worth coming back to?
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rollnloop.
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I just upgraded from 8Gb of ram to 16Gb. Rest of specs core I5 2.8Ghz, GtX970, ssd.
Game moved from very unpleasant to play (eternal load times, hiccups during play) to playable with good graphics. Optimization is still vastly inferior to any other game/sim I play (46,BoX,BMS,arma3, elite, ..... ), and after 2/3 games I need to restart to avoid freezes. However loadtimes are now bearable, no hiccups during 1/2 flights and correct fps. I still have delays when pressing f2 for externals on loading the scenery (therés water where there should be mountains, until they finally load). Some 3D models are ugly (su34, B52), most are ranging from nice to gorgeous.
They deleted the ability to magnify distant planes so you feel totally blind in visual combat unless your radar has locked or you've been lucky enough to spot the aircraft at the right time (that is well in killing range from aim9s).
Right now mig29 is my ride, PFM still needs some work imo (autostability reacts somewhat strangely at times) but it's going the su25T way which was very enjoyable.
Solo campaign works so far, hope that the dynamic 3rd party engine will too.
To wrap it up, yes it's worth a revisit, but 16Gb ram and a SSD are necessary due to abysmal optimization.
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#4446748 - 11/03/18 05:24 AM
Re: Is DCS worth coming back to?
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bisher
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I look forward to upgrading to 16 Gbs ram and an SSD I can play basic missions with little or no performance issues Load times are a pain, I recall after one of the updates load times had significantly improved. Not so much after the next update
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#4447329 - 11/07/18 02:39 AM
Re: Is DCS worth coming back to?
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I look forward to upgrading to 16 Gbs ram and an SSD I can play basic missions with little or no performance issues Load times are a pain, I recall after one of the updates load times had significantly improved. Not so much after the next update My sentiments exactly. And the same upgrading needs. When it takes longer to load then get shot down, well...
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