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#4437607 - 09/07/18 03:20 AM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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Thanks Canuck also spotted the full list by Stache on a different thread. Re-flew the Hurricane using F-5 and F-3 for flight shots looks much better and more fluid. Flew the 109 and it looks more to scale and period correct, but found a fence so dont know how it handles in the air.
In any event, I am having fun Thanks again.

#4437655 - 09/07/18 01:38 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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How did I miss this one? smile

Buying it today, rainy weekend here so will have a go.

#4437995 - 09/09/18 08:17 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Space_Ghost]  
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Well said, CCIP, very well said. I bought the minute I rec'd the email because of what I've seen from OBD over the years. I know danged well I don't even have time to fly, and won't for a while, but I just wanted to give them a shot in the arm. They have a stellar team here, and they deserve support. There's a world of difference between a game and simulator, and these guys get it.

WOFF is hauntingly beautiful; WWII, I expect will have a different feel. But it might be a while before I can figure that out.


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#4438054 - 09/10/18 07:11 AM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Space_Ghost]  
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Originally Posted by Space_Ghost
With only two aircraft, no examples of the campaign UI, no information on HA's being included, an unrepresentative gameplay trailer, no concise roadmap on development and what seems to be virtually no content for the Luftwaffe to play against, I've got no idea what to expect and there's just not enough meat on the bones to justify the price right now.

Looking forward to seeing how WoTR develops, though. When things are a bit more fleshed out I'll certainly throw my hat in the ring.


Sorry, but I can only agree with this guy. I have not been following WOTR development so maybe is explained elsewhere, but would have been nice to see a complete feature included, and planned to be included for the same price. Just my two cents, will wait to see how this new game explains itself and how it develops before deciding to buy or not.
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#4438057 - 09/10/18 08:39 AM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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thanks stratos. Read the feature list please, a lot is explained and detailed there.


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#4438110 - 09/10/18 02:15 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: matmilne]  
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Originally Posted by matmilne
thanks stratos. Read the feature list please, a lot is explained and detailed there.


That's the main problem, where is that list?


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#4438112 - 09/10/18 02:18 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Stratos]  
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Originally Posted by Stratos
Originally Posted by matmilne
thanks stratos. Read the feature list please, a lot is explained and detailed there.


That's the main problem, where is that list?


Precisely.

#4438113 - 09/10/18 02:47 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Space_Ghost]  
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Originally Posted by Space_Ghost
Originally Posted by Stratos
Originally Posted by matmilne
thanks stratos. Read the feature list please, a lot is explained and detailed there.


That's the main problem, where is that list?


Precisely.



It's here I believe on the store page. Store page

Hopefully the Devs can put the features in a sticky..and update accordingly in the future.


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#4438135 - 09/10/18 04:36 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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Good idea I'll put it in a sticky.


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#4438163 - 09/10/18 06:40 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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The feature list is clearly on the store page, where you would expect to find it. There are videos, and will be plenty of reviews too.

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#4438258 - 09/11/18 10:33 AM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted by Polovski
Good idea I'll put it in a sticky.


Thanks for the sticky, but I still think you guys provide only the info of what is included, for example, is the price for the Hurri and 109 only, or will the same price include flyable Spitfire and 110? etc. anyway, don't want to start a flame war, will pass on this and get back in few months.


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#4438262 - 09/11/18 10:47 AM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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We provide only the details of what is included. Isn't that the idea?

The price is for what is listed. If we go any lower there really is no point making sims.

You could try 303 Squadron recently released, You only get to fly the hurricane, no take off, no landing, no detailed cockpits, scripted missions and not a lot of joystick control, but ground crew/squadron interaction may be good and its being added to.


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#4438268 - 09/11/18 11:30 AM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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I would strongly object to a lower price, both from a corporate and personal level, gotta keep the lights on folks. More planes would be great, and of course they will be released in due course, it's just the OBD way. Those who are expecting a steam or console style release, can go play those games, and miss out on the wonderful, satisfying craft of an OBD product.


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#4438285 - 09/11/18 12:38 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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Guys, I don't think he's asking you to lower the price, believe he's asking about what is likely to be added into phase 1 and will that be included for those who buy phase 1 now. So when the BoB spitfire variants are added into the game, will they be included with his original purchase (as a free download) or will he have to buy those additionally at that time...

#4438290 - 09/11/18 12:59 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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Thanks Rick. I understand what he said. As I say the features there are what is in it. That's what you get.
The amount of work to make 1 flyable detailed cockpit is too much to give it away in an update.We will certainly have to stop doing it if we make major content like that and add it with no more sales support for it. The only way to do that would be some kind of yearly subscription service like most companies seem to do these days.

We hope, as we have done with WOFF, that we will do updates that fix bugs, and sometimes also add features or options from time to time if support is there.

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#4438307 - 09/11/18 02:12 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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So, if I'm following, the plan is to charge for additional flyable planes, is that correct?

If so, what is the planned cost? Certainly if the plan has been to charge for additional planes, then there would already be some decision (or at least a ballpark) concerning the plane costs.

#4438308 - 09/11/18 02:20 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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Just guessing that it maybe similar to WOFF releases according to theme with similar price model..

eg Fokker Scourge, Balance of Power, Skin pack, etc...

#4438315 - 09/11/18 02:39 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: OldHat]  
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Originally Posted by OldHat
Just guessing that it maybe similar to WOFF releases according to theme with similar price model..

eg Fokker Scourge, Balance of Power, Skin pack, etc...


Good point, hadn't thought of that.

In any event, it would seem fair and reasonable to want some idea of the plan/pricing going forward, which is what I believe was being asked above. We can all speculate and/or take guesses/ask a lot of questions which may or may not be correct, but it would be much less difficult to have the information from the source.

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#4438325 - 09/11/18 03:23 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Polovski]  
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My 2p,s worth..People asking about other aircraft or looking to buy when it's more fleshed out. Guys there WONT be other features IF phase 1 doesn't sell it won't get fleshed out either without revenue coming in. Would any development team carry on with their product if it wasn't selling?
Would 1cs be able to produce BOM,BOK etc if BOS sold poorly? I wouldn't have thought so.

I can't even begin to imagine the amount of time spent by Winder,Pol and Matt (his musical score) already on this sim and one thing you get with these guys is..love. They love their products ,their support is phenomenal they go the extra mile to help. They patch (if required) often ,I've been a customer from OFF p3 so I know what these guys are about. They'll work tirelessly around the clock to make their sim "better" honestly they are probably the best Devs (along with LGM) that I've ever seen.

I purchased a couple of pizzas and some wedges chicken strips etc last Tuesday for me the missus and the teenage kids..it cost £26. It's only cost a few more quid for this sim. Madness when I think about it.

I'm certainly not here to tell people you " should " purchase,that's entirely their call,is the sim perfect? No not yet,IMO am I having a blast? Absolutely I am,is the Ai possibly even in this early stage the best I've seen in a sim god yeah it's incredible. That alone Personnally is worth at least most of the asking price ,add in the flyable craft the music,the campaign system and its a no brainier for me..I've payed way more than this for AAA titles only to end up disappointed,either with none existent gameplay or really poor Ai ( that really ranks with me)

Flight sims (good ones) are such a niche product. Most of us have been crying out for a new SP WW2 flight sim with excellent Ai and a excellent campaign system,well we've got one,one that knowing OBD will get better and better but ..only with support. No support No extra phases. And it'd be such a bloody shame if this series couldn't go on to become THE pivotal WW2 SP sim

Anyway like I said all that's just my opinion,somethings only worth what you as a individual are willing to pay for. The current price of $34.99 or bout £28 over here in Blighty is cheaper than a meal out.

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#4438335 - 09/11/18 03:56 PM Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released! [Re: Adger]  
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Originally Posted by Adger
My 2p,s worth..People asking about other aircraft or looking to buy when it's more fleshed out. Guys there WONT be other features IF phase 1 doesn't sell it won't get fleshed out either without revenue coming in. Would any development team carry on with their product if it wasn't selling?
Would 1cs be able to produce BOM,BOK etc if BOS sold poorly? I wouldn't have thought so.

I can't even begin to imagine the amount of time spent by Winder,Pol and Matt (his musical score) already on this sim and one thing you get with these guys is..love. They love their products ,their support is phenomenal they go the extra mile to help. They patch (if required) often ,I've been a customer from OFF p3 so I know what these guys are about. They'll work tirelessly around the clock to make their sim "better" honestly they are probably the best Devs (along with LGM) that I've ever seen.

I purchased a couple of pizzas and some wedges chicken strips etc last Tuesday for me the missus and the teenage kids..it cost £26. It's only cost a few more quid for this sim. Madness when I think about it.

I'm certainly not here to tell people you " should " purchase,that's entirely their call,is the sim perfect? No not yet,IMO am I having a blast? Absolutely I am,is the Ai possibly even in this early stage the best I've seen in a sim god yeah it's incredible. That alone Personnally is worth at least most of the asking price ,add in the flyable craft the music,the campaign system and its a no brainier for me..I've payed way more than this for AAA titles only to end up disappointed,either with none existent gameplay or really poor Ai ( that really ranks with me)

Flight sims (good ones) are such a niche product. Most of us have been crying out for a new SP WW2 flight sim with excellent Ai and a excellent campaign system,well we've got one,one that knowing OBD will get better and better but ..only with support. No support No extra phases. And it'd be such a bloody shame if this series couldn't go on to become THE pivotal WW2 SP sim

Anyway like I said all that's just my opinion,somethings only worth what you as a individual are willing to pay for. The current price of $34.99 or bout £28 over here in Blighty is cheaper than a meal out.

Regards Adger


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