#4437301 - 09/05/18 11:35 AM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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Ordered - Downloading 2.81 GB download.
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#4437313 - 09/05/18 12:44 PM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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#4437317 - 09/05/18 12:58 PM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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Can you tell me what is included in the 'launch price'?
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#4437318 - 09/05/18 01:12 PM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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Waiting for the download link ...
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#4437320 - 09/05/18 01:32 PM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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Chucky, what's included? - Look on the store page where you saw those two words, scroll down, its goes through what's in there aircraft etc.
Here's the info copy and pasted:
WINGS OVER THE REICH WW2 COMBAT FLIGHT SIMULATOR FEATURE OVERVIEW
OBD Software is proud to bring you their trademark, immersive single player combat flight simulation, experience - now for World War Two! OBD Software is proud to bring you their trademark immersive single player combat flight simulation experience - now for World War Two!
Leading on from “WOFF” our immersive WW1 combat flight simulator, WINGS OVER THE REICH (known as ‘WOTR’) brings all this and more :
.: OBD’s Unique Dynamic Campaign Engine specially for WW2.
Newly designed dynamic campaign system covering the 5 main phases of the Battle of Britain from 10th July to 31st October 1940. Enlist in one of: 36 British Squadrons - including the famous RAF 303 Polish Squadron 22 German Squadrons
.: Detailed Player Flyable Aircraft:
Hawker Hurricane MKI (Late)
Messerschmitt Bf109 ‘Emil’ E4
Both complete with fully immersive hyper detailed cockpits.
.: Detailed AI only aircraft:
Spitfire MKIa
Junkers Ju88 A1
Junkers Ju87 B1
Messerschmitt Bf 110 C4
Dornier Do17 Z2
Heinkel He111 H2
.: Quick Combat Set up mini battles to test your mettle.
Quickly save setup missions as Quick Scenarios.
.: Quick Scenarios
Jump in more detailed pre set missions without playing in campaign, or fly your own made via QC, or other missions
.: Superb Artificial Intelligence "AI" WOTR brings a thrilling WW2 experience using our superb AI technology - improved for the demands of WW2.
The AI is based on competent AI features seen in WOFF
.: Superb Scenery and Scenery Objects Improved scenery for WW2 England and France.
.: WW2 Damage systems More detailed damage systems, partial / full damage to various parts such as ailerons, elevators, wings, fuselage panels and so on.
.: Full Original WOTR Music Score by MATT MILNE! A brand new full score written specially for WOTR containing 16 superb tracks to get you into the mood! Matt also wrote the highly praised haunting musical scores in the WOFF series of flight simulators.
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#4437326 - 09/05/18 02:20 PM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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It costs 36 euros including VAT , a fair price thank you .
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#4437329 - 09/05/18 02:38 PM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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Thanks Polovski,I did note that. I see 'Phase 1' is where you are at now and then I see 'Phase 2' which will be extended to Europe. Will Phase 2 be DLC? It's not clear to me.
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#4437350 - 09/05/18 05:19 PM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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Did not run the game, but according to the pictures : E4
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#4437380 - 09/05/18 07:45 PM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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So the first issue is that the pdf info on installation does not match what I Have in my download which is 3 files. not 4 and totally different names, WingsOverTheReich_V1.00 Application WingsOverTheReich_V1.00-1a binary WingsOverTheReich_V1.00-1b binary
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#4437386 - 09/05/18 08:02 PM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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The PDF was corrected but not uploaded, corrected one there now, thanks mongoose. If that's the major issue then we'll be happy Guys please post any further technical issues in the Technical issues thread. Thanks.
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#4437391 - 09/05/18 08:58 PM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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With only two aircraft, no examples of the campaign UI, no information on HA's being included, an unrepresentative gameplay trailer, no concise roadmap on development and what seems to be virtually no content for the Luftwaffe to play against, I've got no idea what to expect and there's just not enough meat on the bones to justify the price right now. Please check the feature list and review the trailer for content and state of play. Please review past OBD releases for its development roadmap and what to expect.
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#4437409 - 09/05/18 10:08 PM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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Thanks Matt Yes how can that be an unrepresentative game-play trailer? It's very representative as all the flying is from the sim! The video alone shows game-play including several phases from the 5 main BOB phases. Shipping attacks. South England airfields, radar attacks etc, Night Raids over London, and so on. It also nicely shows comms from AI aircraft (all in game recording) acknowledging and responding to player with correct speech, and it matches what they are doing and so on. Cockpits and damage, scenery and lighting, There's loads of info out there on our AI, campaign etc in WOFF on which WOTR is based and improved on. Info on our overflandersfields.com website (both WOFF and WOTR websites have links to each other). Also SimHQ forum itself has lots of info and a general idea of what we do with that should give you a good idea. The AI alone is worth the admission, very few sims - if any have AI on a par. Luftwaffe? In your ME109 you fly across to England and fight off Hurricanes and Spitfires, escorting, or attacking, or patrolling and so on .. and seriously watch your fuel gauge. Plenty to do. I guess it comes down to do you like WW2 sims, and the idea of an immersive single player dynamic campaign with missions never being the same, similar to WOFF's detail, specially designed for the Battle of Britain over great terrain? 34.99 dollars is peanuts for the experience that will keep on giving Yes we can add more if it's supported. WOFF has been going and improving for many many years.
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#4437439 - 09/06/18 03:34 AM
Re: Wings Over The Reich Now Released!
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Honestly, I don't know where people are getting these expectations. It seems weird to me in a games industry where AAA games sell for $60-80 just for a basic edition (without DLCs and microtransactions) and, once you strip away the shiny graphics, offer pretty limited content especially on the single-player front. It also seems weird to me in flight simulation where all new releases are substantially more expensive. Yes, IL-2 Cliffs of Dover or BoB II Wings of Victory are great titles that cost less (though at list price, not THAT much less), but neither is a new release. Both have long collected their dues and broke even. Why can't we grant OBD the same privilege, at least? Also, maybe more importantly, while I understand that a new customer might be puzzled by the marketing, anyone who knows anything in the flight simming community should know better than that, even just based on (W)OFF and what it proved itself to be. I totally missed the OFF phase myself, though I knew it well by reputation - but I bought everything WOFF at full original price except for one expansion pack I missed, plus UE which I got the discount for. Years later, I still consider that $200ish money well spent, and anybody can enjoy the same content now for 30 bucks - and I hope they do. Because I wasn't getting it for the quantity. Heck, I've not spent more than a couple of minutes in at least 2/3rds of the actual available planes. That's not the point for me. Yes, IL-2 1946 (a fantastic game in its own right and for its time) costs $5 and has what, 600 aircraft and 30 maps out of the box? Well, that's great. I've had some good times in that game, especially in multiplayer. But I also sort of don't care to play it anymore because the dynamic campaigns aren't really dynamic (though something like DCG does help remedy that), the world feels kind of mechanical and restricted, and the AI behaves like suicidal robots. Yet I could fly nothing but a Nieuport from the same airfield for a year and not get bored in WOFF. Because it's not the quantity or the feature set, but the fact that the game has a gorgeous, expansive world that feels much more alive - and a fantastic AI that feels a lot more human. Just those two things alone are enough to keep me coming back over and over - and there's more than just two things in WOFF. I don't play this game because I want a clone of another product but in a WWI setting, with a directly comparable feature set. I play it because it's WOFF, and it has its own unique identity and feel that hits the spot for me in a way no other game does, no matter how many boxes it theoretically ticks. So it is with WOTR, which I just downloaded. I'll grant the possibility that OBD could have soiled the sleeping-place this time, so to speak, but... really, what are the odds of that? I've been talking to a lot of people lately about the problems of marketing 'hardcore' simulations and wargames, and I keep coming to the conclusion that while small teams that build these things could almost always do better at marketing and presenting themselves, people give studios like OBD way more of a hard time about it than they deserve. They could do better. They could do worse. I'm just glad they're there. Ultimately, nobody's figured out the perfect way to make everybody happy with a niche, independent product like this - and that includes the new customers, the old die-hards, and the developers themselves. Something always has to give, and someone will always end up grumbling. But at the very least, between the developer and the sim community's hardcore, we shouldn't even be having this kind of conversation about an $35 price tag on a brand new game derived from something as solid as WOFF. You might not really want it, okay, that's fine. Your friend who plays War Thunder without spending any cash on it might not want it either, and that's fine too (both for War Thunder and for said friend). A certain percentage of players might play a few hours and not really get into it. But I straight-up refuse to believe that most people who spend $35 on WOTR aren't going to get their money's worth out of it and then some, and a good portion of them will probably love it. There is no way that someone who's been playing WWII flight sims for a long time could really believe it's not worth it, when you average out the odds and likely playtime that those who get it will put into it. I might be wrong, I don't know. But I'm about to launch WOTR and find out for myself
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