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#4435948 - 08/27/18 03:45 AM Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer  
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I don’t think you can top The Right Stuff, but I’m glad to see an attempt.
Looks pretty good!



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#4435966 - 08/27/18 10:49 AM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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I didn't care for Ryan Gosling when he first came on the scene but he's turned into quite a good actor.


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cold be a very good movie ( even though we know how it ends biggrin )


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#4436024 - 08/27/18 05:33 PM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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#4436621 - 08/31/18 08:49 PM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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I was looking forward to this movie, not so much now. Revisionists screw up everything.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nei...ican-flag-on-moon-gosling-defends-2018-8


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#4436623 - 08/31/18 08:51 PM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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#4436624 - 08/31/18 08:55 PM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
I was looking forward to this movie, not so much now. Revisionists screw up everything.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nei...ican-flag-on-moon-gosling-defends-2018-8


Even if Armstrong saw the moon landing as a human achievement, it's still a FACT that the U.S. flag was put on the moon. A very prominent fact. Why didn't these retards just make a Lego moon landing movie instead?


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#4436632 - 08/31/18 09:35 PM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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they spoiled the ending for me, at the end of the trailer, he clearly landed on the our Moon and was about to walk on the surface.

#4436633 - 08/31/18 09:41 PM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
I was looking forward to this movie, not so much now. Revisionists screw up everything.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nei...ican-flag-on-moon-gosling-defends-2018-8




Yep, they lost me.


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#4436636 - 08/31/18 10:09 PM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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At least 90% of Hollywood writers, actors and producers are left-leaning so this doesn’t surprise me one bit.

Let’s not take political path with the thread.

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#4436637 - 08/31/18 10:16 PM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
I was looking forward to this movie, not so much now. Revisionists screw up everything.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nei...ican-flag-on-moon-gosling-defends-2018-8



I think Gosling failed history. He kinda forgot about that cold war thing that was so big during the time period...

#4436665 - 09/01/18 02:17 AM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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"Gosling, who is Canadian"

That explains it. Armstrong, from Ohio, clearly knew the importance of planting an American flag on the Moon.

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I hope it is a movie about mankind's exploring nature and the bravery,co-operation, work, dedication, sacrifice,and scientific/technological advances it took to accomplish such a monumental achievement.

I have my doubts that will be the message though. Hollywood just seem to be incapable, or willing to do such a story.

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Originally Posted by LB4LB
I hope it is a movie about mankind's exploring nature and the bravery,co-operation, work, dedication, sacrifice,and scientific/technological advances it took to accomplish such a monumental achievement.

I have my doubts that will be the message though. Hollywood just seem to be incapable, or willing to do such a story.



That is what I would have hoped for, but even before the entire flag thing came up I was getting the impression from the trailer that this was going to be a "Neil vs Jane" film focused a lot on friction at the Armstrong home.


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Originally Posted by letterboy1
Originally Posted by F4UDash4
I was looking forward to this movie, not so much now. Revisionists screw up everything.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nei...ican-flag-on-moon-gosling-defends-2018-8


Even if Armstrong saw the moon landing as a human achievement, it's still a FACT that the U.S. flag was put on the moon. A very prominent fact. Why didn't these retards just make a Lego moon landing movie instead?


I remember watching the landing. The prominent fact that stands out in my mind is Armstrong making that first step onto the surface while making his memorable statement.

People who have actually seen the movie state that there are scenes showing the American flag on the moon. I honestly don't get the whining that the actual planting of the flag isn't shown. BFD. And I could care less what the political views of the actors are.

Trailer looks pretty darn cool. Don't care for Gosling's acting but I plan on seeing it anyways.


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Gosling, who is Canadian, argued that the first voyage to the moon was a "human achievement" that didn't just represent an American accomplishment, and that's how Armstrong viewed it.


Then why didn't Canada put a man on the Moon?

Or the Soviets?


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#4436723 - 09/01/18 05:15 PM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Damn, this is a tough crowd. LOL
Personally, I think it's fine to cast whomever they want in a role. They're ACTORS. They should go with whomever "pretends" the best for the role.
You should be able to enjoy a movie for the movie itself, not have to read the life story of everyone involved in making it.
I'm glad to see the movie is coming out instead of yet another drama-cryfest-comedy. But who knows? If it isn't worth the ticket price, I might tear up too.


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#4436724 - 09/01/18 05:26 PM Re: Speaking of Neil Armstrong...First Man trailer [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Damn, this is a tough crowd. LOL
Personally, I think it's fine to cast whomever they want in a role. They're ACTORS. They should go with whomever "pretends" the best for the role.
You should be able to enjoy a movie for the movie itself, not have to read the life story of everyone involved in making it.
I'm glad to see the movie is coming out instead of yet another drama-cryfest-comedy. But who knows? If it isn't worth the ticket price, I might tear up too.


Gosling being Canadian isn't the issue, omitting the flag raising (arguably THE reason for being there, for the first landing at least) is.


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If its not a big deal (regardless even if now we're being told the flag actually does show up indirectly in scenes of the movie), then why is there an article specifically making an effort to acknowledge that the historical flag moment would be omitted from the movie complete with the quote of a non-American actor's favorable opinion of that decision? If they've done this, what else may be suspect in the movie's script or writing? Maybe it won't turn out to come off as all this makes it sound. Maybe some journalist made much to do about nothing, took a single person's opinion and then made a "thing" out of it all by themselves, I don't know. Sometimes things are made a big deal before a movie's release only to find out it wasn't done in that spirit at all. HOWEVER, there are countless movies that do indeed turn out to be the lie and garbage that they were suspected to be in the first place. We shall see. I'd love to see it for those X-15 scenes but if the movie is indeed coming from the pen of those who wish to rewrite and misrepresent history or force it to accommodate erroneous social/political aberrant beliefs then I'm not interested. Perhaps the movie will turn out fine but it does raise a flag of its own, a red one, when its seems to have gone out of its way to mention the omission of this historical moment.

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