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#4435290 - 08/22/18 12:26 PM DXWND results in Win 7  
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I'm not having much luck in Windows 10, but it runs fine in Windows 7.

This was with the ETO2015 theatre update that I am working on, with ETO Late planeset.

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My desktop is 1920x1080, but the DXwnd and eaw.ini resolution is set to 1280x960
The frame rate is excellent as you can see.

For me this has a good advantage over the d3d windower in that EAW is running "hooked" so if I launch it via GameRanger, or from one of the filemanagers, it still runs in the window.
Offline I am getting a much better framerate, and the target selection map works smile

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#4435314 - 08/22/18 03:00 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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The best result I could get is with these settings


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The width and height are zero forcing the app to use the selection screen resolution of 1024x768, and the eaw.ini resolution for the game, which I set to 1280x1024
I am also hiding the desktop background.

I have attempted to set wider screens, but either I get a "pic not found" error, or with some settings it worked, but with a much lower framerate.
I will keep trying wink


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#4435318 - 08/22/18 03:21 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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Screens are clear but still crashes in both single and user missions using a geforce 1050 card..Still going to try to get the windower to show a larger window


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#4435319 - 08/22/18 03:26 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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I have just tried again with an eaw.ini set to 1440x900 and got good results.


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#4435320 - 08/22/18 03:32 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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Set EAW to my native 1920 x 1200 same thing and with windower I have the main screens about filling the monitor but launch the game and it goes to a small window..Run in window is unchecked


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#4435326 - 08/22/18 04:01 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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@Russ,
try 1024x768 in your eaw.ini and zeroxzero (or 1024x768 if 0 fails) in the DXWND wrapper program. These are good settings to play the game.

@Jel,
dont forget there are Expert TABs if you choose to enable them.

#4435332 - 08/22/18 04:22 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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Thanks Mark did that but got small screens and small game window,,I went to windower and upped the height and width 100 at a time getting better chopped the bottom off so backed the height off a bit going to work on the width next


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#4435354 - 08/22/18 06:37 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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Russ

I see that your card is a Geforce 1050

nVidia cards do not support horizon fog, so most users run with a glidewrapper.
If you are using a glidewrapper its settings need to be coordinated with DXWind.
Make sure you are in d3D for the moment, and set your height and width in DXWnd to 0.
This will force it to use the 1024x768 screens, and the resolution set in the "eaw.ini" file.
Set your "eaw.ini" to 1280x960 for starters
Once you are happy with it you can try a bigger resolution, and eventuallly bring the glidewrapper into play smile

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#4435358 - 08/22/18 07:05 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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Same thing screens look great but launch anything and I get kicked out..When running in glide I'm using nglide..and tried D3D still crashed but testing windower set at 1324 X 1124 in D3D the flight window stays in place at fills 3/4 of the screen but in glide it shrinks and goes to the upper left corner....At least it's useful to read the stick setup screens easily do my settinggs and restart with no windower..And in D3D my framerates are down around 15 and stutters,,Glide runs at 55-60 FPS

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#4435511 - 08/23/18 08:38 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: rwatson]  
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This thread, amongst others, is causing me to think of adopting DXWND as a substitute for other wrapper programs.

#4435532 - 08/23/18 10:27 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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DXWND should work in the OS that it says its designed for.

I don't know whats going on with Win7 or Win10 in Russ and Jel's OS installs to cause them CTD when launching instant mission or fly from the selection screen.
All I can think of is bad driver installs, DirectX is bad or some compatibility issues that should not be set in the registry (congested entrys?)

I'm no expert at all, but I have been able to use DXWND in Win7 and Win10 now.

Just a few issues with 160 (sometimes, not all the time) 160 gives an error "pic not found! -1" when you click instant mission/fly.
Jel thinks this maybe due to the resolution and an issue with the DXWND program itself as 160 will run okay without the wrapper on the same hardware/OS. (just reduced fps, due to the wrapper not putting the game in a window).




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#4435540 - 08/24/18 12:19 AM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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If your the few that turns on Nvidia Control Panel and change the settings for the (eaw.exe) profile. Make sure those are set t odefault when your testing the game to see if it loads and what not, even going into the flight screen the game can CTD if one of those settings are ON or to high.

I've found that through DXWND that the Anstropic Filtering is on in the NVIDIA display control panel that the game would CTD. Other settings will do that too, it all depends whay wrapper your using as to how much it allows the game to be graphically enhanced.

So, to sum up, use the default profile / no changes and try to run EAW through to the flight screen. If it works, then set one at a time the NVIDIA display control panel settings to improve the look of the game.
I'll update my help doc with this troubleshoot issue.

#4435806 - 08/25/18 09:17 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MarkEAW]  
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Have downloaded latest version of DXWND, and latest version of EXEPRO. Will begin co-joining them tomorrow. Both by coincidence of timing. Wish me luck!

#4435834 - 08/26/18 01:20 AM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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Some issues with EAW may relate to running background processes and their use of memory. Being from the Windows 98 era, EAW simply doesn't like such processes and it's adviced to play the game with a freshly rebooted computer and not do anything to prevvent activation of such processes. Just playing the game has always worked best. Don't browse around in between games, use graphical software or build in telephones, as anything you do not related to playing the game can destroy the game's cache and may result in a CTD at any possible point in the game.

People must also realise that they are in control of memory use by the game. Although it may be preferred to run the highest possible graphics it is not always working out depending on drivers, CPU, GPU or OS, especially not with very enhanced games. When experiencing problems, try switching down detail settings in your EAW.INI and try one lower setting. Then you can try increasing each one one level at the time to see if any one of them might be causing a problem.

There are alternative ways to control graphical behaviour but they're not as simple as turning down a detail setting. One option is to force the game to only use the lores graphics, the detail setting isn't always capable of switching into that mode when a graphics card doesn't allow it the way EAW wants to do it. It's a forced option for which EAWPRO has specific script files, but it can be done without such scripts too. It just rquires a bit of understanding on the various filetypes used within the game. An old trick was to copy or swap lores drawings for terrains and the same can be done with objects and their .TPC's.

The older players will know these things but it's not clear to a newer generation of EAW pilots, because this knowledge is slowly fading. Searching this forum may help you find discussions on the subject and there's nothing wrong with asking for help. EAW just can be a PITA sometimes and other times it just works right off the bat. One thing is certain, it hasn't become any easier since this game's introduction and principally I think the same problems from that era still exist but so do their solutions.

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#4435883 - 08/26/18 04:33 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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I finally got it running in W10 after deleting some AMD drivers wink

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One of the tricks to avoid "pic not found" is to use native resolution.
I have just changed my eaw.ini resolution to 1280x768 to preserve the 16:9 ratio of my 1920x1080 monitor, and when I did that the FPS was often over 100, even with Ray's big ETO theatre loaded in 160 wink


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#4435893 - 08/26/18 05:50 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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Thats Great.

Do you have a AMD video card?

Did you use a AMD video card driver cleaner then reinstall your vid driver?

or something else if you care to explain?

#4435958 - 08/27/18 08:01 AM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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Unfortunately I cannot explain precisely frown
I had decided to remove the current and then re-install earlier drivers for my AMD Radeon R7 200 series video card because I was getting the 7217 error in Win 10 for every version of EAW no matter which folder or drive. I suspected a driver problem.
My first move was to go to "Programs and features" via the Control Panel. Two AMD programs had been installed but their titles did not give clear indication of what they did, and I cannot remember their names.
However, I removed them. When I had done so I was surprised that there was no change in the screen. Had I removed a driver then I would have expected a default Win 10 driver to be in use, with a change of screen resolution
So just to check I ran EAW again, expecting the 7217 error, but and this time it ran with no 7217.
Then out of curiosity I re-ran DXWnd and it worked.

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#4436007 - 08/27/18 04:39 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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Okay. It might have been an AMD Chipset driver, then maybe Win10 update replaced it. Just guessing.

Well its good you have the game running on Win10 in DXWND, it solves those slow screen transitions and lower FPS, by restoring the proper speed again.

#4436011 - 08/27/18 04:48 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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I have made the eaw ini resolution 1600x900 and it is still running at 80FPS, and occasionally higher, which is most acceptable.


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#4436051 - 08/27/18 08:15 PM Re: DXWND results in Win 7 [Re: MrJelly]  
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These two settings seem to heavily effect the FPS. The force mode seems to give a flicker on 160, but its intermediate, and mostly on the menu screen.

DirectDraw Surface Handling, Auto Primary Surface Blit, checked (Boosts FPS on Menu screens)
DirectDraw Surface Handling, Auto Primary Surface Blit, Force Mode, checked (Boosts FPS and smooths prop rotation on Flight Screen. On v1.60 causes an occasional slight flicker)

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