With Patrick Stewart no less! Continuing his story. Yes, on CBS All Access, so it isn’t perfect, but I’ll take it.
I wonder if anyone else will be joining from TNG? Surely at least some cameos?

https://mobile.twitter.com/SirPatStew/status/1025840545216823296

I was hoping Michael Dorn's idea for a "Worf" series would be made. But I'll remain open minded about this, for now.

After watching the video I hope that the "he may not be the same Picard you remember" isn't taken to an extreme. Of course he's 20 years older and many things have happened but if he is fundamentally different then they will just ruin the character. And, sad to say, given recent Hollywood tendencies there is probably a better than even chance that that is exactly what they will do. I hope I'm wrong.

It will be very interesting in what kind of focus the show will have.

Is Picard still in Star Fleet? Is he maybe an Admiral now? Will it focus on more political and strategic sides? Or is Star Fleet someplace that allows old admirals to have a front line duty?
Or is he retired, and solves crimes with a trusty side kick?

Still won't watch. Unless the show dropped their SJW horse poo, I'll sadly miss Stewart.

God I'm tired of the SJW #%&*$# excuse moaning. Welcome to the real world where homephobia and racism isn't the accepted norm anymore.

Star Trek has always been on the cutting edge of "SJW", from Kirk kissing Uhura, to gay main characters on DS9. How the heck can you like Star Trek and cry about SJW when it's had that element since the 60s?
Roddenberry was a huge liberal hippie communist, and Star Trek reflects that at the core.

Agreed and happy bday EAF!
They did a great job with ST Discovery, I’m excited to see what they do here. An ongoing story really developing Picard should be interesting. I’m SO glad they didn’t do some kind of “the usual” prequel young Picard show, as seems to be the trend. I like the idea of an older lead and finally moving into the future again.

I'm NEVER GOING TO STOP. Guess what? We don't need stupid BS shoved down our throats constantly and we DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE with what the LEFT WING(or RIGHT WING) MANIACS want to shove into our brains. Some of us think for ourselves and believe that stuff is not as big a deal as it supposedly is, and we don't need to be preached at constantly about the merits of this that or whatever. We have our ideals and we keep to ourselves, and we would much prefer if other folks would stop harping about nonsense and tainting our literature, film, and arts with idealism and instead focus on the plot and not make things issues that don't need to be made issues.

Got it?

THAT is why we don't watch this nonsense. Because it artificially gets in the way of the experience when it shouldn't be there.

Who's more racist? Someone who quietly goes about their day, being polite to everyone they meet, treating everyone kindly and simply having conversations and performing actions because they are part of their routine...

-or-

That guy or gal who runs around shouting racism this racism that and how someone is so racist or homophobic.

Guess what?

Choice #2 is clearly more racist. Same as those who harp about affirmative action or including... a certain social type to make them "more represented." Well guess what? By forcing white this, black that, gay this, straight that, into a show simply to make sure it is represented is more racist/sexist/genderist/preferencist(I made some words up), than making stuff as natural as it should be.

When every show/writer conspires with one another to include a certain class or preference in every show as a must and shouts that those that don't are being "ist," it isn't the others that aren't that are "ist," but it is those that are conspiring to make it an issue and representation in the first place.

We're sick and tired of it. We aren't Harrison Bergeron's father, who need a constant buzzer in our ears to curb our thoughts when we get an idea, or give us a reminder when we start to think about something that perhaps we should think a different way--the preferred way, the preached way, the way that we must believe and if we don't comply and obey then we're the scum of the earth.

Now do you get it?


THIS is why we make an issue now of shows that are pulling this crap when they are doing more harm than good because they are stifling the ideals of freedom and unity by being fake about creating unity when they are only furthering the divide.


Why is there so much anger and hatred in society? Because nobody can go about their own damn business in their own daily lives because a certain segment of our population has to make an issue out of everything.


Call my post hypocritical, call me a hypocrit, but Star Trek's producer and creator, the reboot, said explicitly he was going to go out of the way to irritate and piss off those who don't want to be force fed his agenda. That's our problem. That's our issue. We want to watch Star Trek, for all the awesomeness that it was, even Roddenberry's utopia vision and everything else that the original series began with, because that made Star Trek what it was. And some of us, like myself, are quite open minded to many things and can never be put into one box because we think absolutely for ourselves, and when we witness nonsense, refuse to be silenced and will speak our minds because life isn't black and white, right or left, but instead should be consumed in large doses of common sense. Something current reality is clearly lacking.


[I guess this should be moved to PWEC now.]

It will stop when the television and movie industry stops going out of there way to substitute their patented brand of anti-white racism and and anti-heterosexual bigotry for good storytelling.

so.... never

No, it hasn't. Not "social justice warriors" because that is a modern term that didn't exist prior to "Discovery". SJW isn't about equality, it's about dominance. It's not about acceptance but adoptance. You can't just be willing to allow gay marriage you have to embrace it. You say that is overstatement, no because there is already a movement that calls a man a homophobe if he refuses to date a "transgender woman" (IE a man pretending to be a woman) as well as a movement to now normalize pedophilia.

Modern ST, as well as most of what comes out of Hollywood today, has "jumped the shark" on equality and now gone into full on advocacy of the idea that what is only a small segment of society is the norm and that the other 99% of us are all outliers.

A lot of BS about a tv show none of us know anything about.
If you don't want to like it, fine, but no need to send a thread about a tv show to PWEC. Not everything has to be a soapbox moment.

Okay... Phasers on heavy stun, lock em in the brig till they all calm down.


It's a TV show. Nothing more. We've all got far more important things to worry about.

Such as reading/writing comments about a TV show on an internet forum . . .?

Naw, I'm just not worrying about it.

I made my life a LOT easier a couple of decades ago when I discovered without a doubt that the vast majority of the Hollywood system has a huge Left wing political bias. So whenever I watch any movie or tv show I already know what to expect.

See if we can get this back on track...


My concern is not with the writers making Picard gay or transgender etc. (although I guess that could happen) but with them making him bitter, petty, drunken, broken, a liar and/or a cheat.

Picard was always of high moral character, ricking his life, his ship and his crews lives for principles in many cases. I would not want to see that "legacy" erased. It wouldn't be believable, to me.

A lot can happen in 20 years, so I have no real qualms about seeing some huge changes in Picard. it depends on how much of the canon their keep for the time between TNG and then, like the DS9 story.

The Dominion War was not the Federation (and espesially Star Fleet) finest moment, where a lot of it's darker sides finally came out.

Then a lot depending on what happened in both his private life, and with his crew.

The main issue is that audiences have changed a lot over the past 20 years or so.

People are usually more interested in seeing relatable real-world characters (ie having both good qualities and flaws) than in seeing prim and proper characters with no flaws.

I'd like to see him start a noble speech... then say "f' it, I'm told old for this.. open fire!"

(I've always prefered Sisko as a leader....)

True, and I have no problem with that. My fear is a Picard who is all flaws and few/no good qualities. Hollywood has a tendency to go from one extreme to another.