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#4432082 - 07/28/18 05:22 AM Re: Edibles [Re: Nixer]  
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This whole "pot is dangerous" is so freakin DUMB. Idiots will be idiots, whether you give them pot, beer, tequila or freakin heroin.


Any chemical can be dangerous. Some idiot tried to harm me and my property this week. They purchased a lead/acid battery, filled it to the brim, and left the vent cap installed. Thank god it was outside, away from other units and myself when the pre-activation cap finally blew and sprayed sulfuric acid in all directions. When informed this "freaking DUMB", idiot the harm he had caused to his machine (acid washed) and the potential harm that was avoided, the answer was " O, sorry, I had no idea. attack You had to remove a sticker to fill at least one cell.:

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#4432152 - 07/28/18 08:12 PM Re: Edibles [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Uh, Aldo, we had this experiment where the tenth amendment was tested, and the states just did whatever the heck they wanted to, saying the Federal Government couldn't have any say over them - turns out that whatever the federal government passes as law, the states must abide by.

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#4432164 - 07/28/18 09:35 PM Re: Edibles [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Yeah, that didn’t go iver very well. LOL
Additionally, if fed laws aren’t enforced when they insist on it, federal funds get withheld until they are.


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#4432195 - 07/29/18 04:06 AM Re: Edibles [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Yeah, that didn’t go iver very well. LOL
Additionally, if fed laws aren’t enforced when they insist on it, federal funds get withheld until they are.


The point is that they are not insisting on it, or even commenting on it. This is a case where congress, as a whole, is trying to ignore the issue so as to not alienate their constituents. If they don't vote on it then their vote cannot be held against them.

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#4432196 - 07/29/18 04:42 AM Re: Edibles [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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ahh yes, the war of Northern aggression, where a tyrannical federal government forced servitude upon a culture and later promoted it as a war against slavery.
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turns out that whatever the federal government passes as law, the states must abide by

I argue that the society with the most lives to sacrifice earned the right to impose there will. If you want to have a polite debate about that, start a new thread. We have already ventured too far from the subject of this thread..
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Additionally, if fed laws aren’t enforced when they insist on it, federal funds get withheld until they are.


The federal government has that right. Just as it can withhold funding for not enforcing a federal standard for a 55 MPH speed limit, it can withhold funding for sanctuary cities and recreational pot use. It all returns to following the money and imposing morals.

wink and before you become too one sided, California has the right to impose stricter EPA laws then the federal standard. Is Cali over stepping state's rights for enforcing a stricter standard?

right Thanks to all for keeping the discussion civil.

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#4432198 - 07/29/18 06:42 AM Re: Edibles [Re: Brit44 'Aldo']  
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Originally Posted by cichlidfan
Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Yeah, that didn’t go iver very well. LOL
Additionally, if fed laws aren’t enforced when they insist on it, federal funds get withheld until they are.


The point is that they are not insisting on it, or even commenting on it. This is a case where congress, as a whole, is trying to ignore the issue so as to not alienate their constituents. If they don't vote on it then their vote cannot be held against them.


Yep, “The usual”. LOL

Originally Posted by Brit44 'Aldo'
California has the right to impose stricter EPA laws then the federal standard. Is Cali over stepping state's rights for enforcing a stricter standard?

right Thanks to all for keeping the discussion civil.


They’re still enforcing the fed regulations...plus some.
Dry, or semi-dry, counties do the same with alcohol.


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#4432231 - 07/29/18 04:43 PM Re: Edibles [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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So, Federal Law trumps State Law...what about this whole ICE thing ? duck

#4432286 - 07/30/18 04:56 AM Re: Edibles [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Well, ICE hasn't stopped conducting operations in any of the "Sanctuary" cities.

And it's a dirty little secret, but the local cops are still cooperating with ICE most of the time.

The goal posts have moved so much when it comes to what being a "sanctuary city" means that it's actually meaningless...since a lot of Federal dollars are at stake.


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#4432295 - 07/30/18 09:12 AM Re: Edibles [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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I hope it is OK with the original poster that we have strayed from there subject, and congrats to all for a civil conversation that has not kicked this to the PWEC ( I still have no clue where that is).

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They’re still enforcing the fed regulations...plus some.

A fine example of states rights. The federal regulation should be the minimum, providing that they have the constitutional power for the regulation.

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The goal posts have moved so much when it comes to what being a "sanctuary city" means that it's actually meaningless...since a lot of Federal dollars are at stake.

A good example where the federal government has the constitutional power (immigration, educate me if I am wrong). It will be interesting to see how the judicial branch rules on the lawsuits that claim the federal government can not withhold federal dollars. I have little faith in the judicial branch, since they ruled I could be taxed for not purchasing a product that I refuse to use (healthcare).


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#4432615 - 08/02/18 05:06 PM Re: Edibles [Re: Brit44 'Aldo']  
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Originally Posted by Brit44 'Aldo'
I have little faith in the judicial branch, since they ruled I could be taxed for not purchasing a product that I refuse to use (healthcare).



Actually, that is not a tax but a penalty (that the IRS has been empowered to collect). If you choose not to pay it, it has no impact on your IRS debt.


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#4432693 - 08/03/18 05:49 AM Re: Edibles [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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If you choose not to pay it, it has no impact on your IRS debt.

That is only true because the current administration chooses not to collect the fine.

smile or you can do like I do. If your only source of income (net profit) is less then the standard federal deduction, you are exempt from the law. If I work at McDonalds, I am exempt until 10,500 (2017 standard deduction). But, if I am self employed, the amount of receipts (regardless of the cost of goods) is the amount used to determine liability for the "fine". Read the AHCA law. It is a law too control the masses.


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#4432695 - 08/03/18 06:18 AM Re: Edibles [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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“The Affordable Care Act’s requirement that certain individuals pay a financial penalty for not obtaining health insurance may reasonably be characterized as a tax,” Chief Justice Roberts wrote in the majority opinion. “Because the Constitution permits such a tax, it is not our role to forbid it, or to pass upon its wisdom or fairness.”


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#4432809 - 08/03/18 07:27 PM Re: Edibles [Re: Brit44 'Aldo']  
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Originally Posted by Brit44 'Aldo'
“The Affordable Care Act’s requirement that certain individuals pay a financial penalty for not obtaining health insurance may reasonably be characterized as a tax,” Chief Justice Roberts wrote in the majority opinion. “Because the Constitution permits such a tax, it is not our role to forbid it, or to pass upon its wisdom or fairness.”


The operative word being 'opinion'. As for being a tax, that is also an opinion. Either way, the current and previous administrations have not seen fit to enforce it which makes it a rather weak tax.


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#4432921 - 08/04/18 06:43 AM Re: Edibles [Re: cichlidfan]  
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True, it is an opinion. But, it is the opinion handed down by the supreme court. The result is that the opinion becomes law of the land. It still remains that any future administration has the right to limit my earnings or pay the federal government for the "right" to live my existence as I see fit.

And, I must point out that the originating administration delayed enforcement of the "penalty" until 2014 tax year. They did enforce the graduated increase that was built into this penalty.
The current state of the unenforced law is this:

https://www.healthcare.gov/fees/fee-for-not-being-covered/

The 2017 fee for not having health insurance:
The penalty rises yearly with inflation. For the 2017 plan year, the fee is calculated 2 different ways — as a percentage of your yearly household income, and per person. You’ll pay whichever is higher.

Percentage of income
2.5% of yearly household income
Maximum: Total yearly premium for the national average price of a Bronze plan sold through the Marketplace

Per person per year
$695 per adult
$347.50 per child under 18
Maximum: $2,085 per household


So, lets take this into 2018 and consider the tax reform passed under the current administration. The standard deduction was increased by $5,650.00. Using the current state of the ACHA law, I can not have net receipts greater then $16,000 before I am forced to pay for the health care of the general public. To make things simple, I owe the minimum "tax" if I bill more then $308.00 of motorcycle repairs per week. NOT earnings, but how much I charge (including all costs). All for a product that I refuse to use.

wink yes I know that if I wanted doctors in my life, I could force you to pay for it.

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