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#4417151 - 04/20/18 03:46 PM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: ArgonV]  
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Originally Posted by ArgonV
Howdy,

I have an Intel i7 920, Intel i7 930 CPUs
3GB Crucial DDR3 1333 mem
Sapphire ATI 5870 2GB mini-display port card

Any interest?

Hi,

First, let me say I've enjoyed FS-WWI many times, so thanks smile

The parts: Nice to see someone still believes in the old x58 platform (and what monsters they can be *lol*). I have two; one is currently fitted with a 980x - after my 6700k, it's the 2nd most powerful CPU I have! The other I'm playing with a Xeon CPU in, hadn't fully sorted a good overclock on it yet.

But of course, the parts are somewhat dated. You really have to get one of the hex core units to make that X58 compete today (as it seems you and I have both done). I have a 930 sitting here, displaced by that Xeon. Tough to tie up three slots with 1G RAM sticks, too...unfortunate frown Most, like you and I have, will go 12G, so you need at least 2G/slot.

Those were all such wonderful parts, back in the day - but just a tad too short of what I can do much with today frown (Maybe I should re-think the OP's inclusion of the first gen stuff...but then, no one comes along with a dirt-cheap 990x looking to move it *lol*)

Thank you just the same, and maybe someone will see it here and take a fancy to it, one never knows biggrin

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#4417154 - 04/20/18 04:00 PM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: kksnowbear]  
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Glad to hear! I still fire the old FS-WWI and SDOE up and have a go. A great tinkerers sim.

No worries about the parts! The i7 920 was my first i7 CPU, along with the 3GB of DDR3 mem and 5870 2GB vid card back in 2010. Got a i7 6 core 990x a while back, runs like a champ! The i7 930 was given to me, I've never used it.

Right now all these old parts are just taking up space in my closet. wink I'll hold on to them, maybe keep them as backups just in case...


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#4417195 - 04/20/18 08:21 PM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: kksnowbear]  
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Do you have any interest in peripherals? I have a Cooler Master mechanical keyboard, Logitech G400S mouse and PCI parallel port adapter for sale. I also have a laptop I am selling.

#4417230 - 04/21/18 03:31 AM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: Flogger23m]  
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No, but thanks for inquiring. Others who see your post might, though.
Originally Posted by Flogger23m
Do you have any interest in peripherals? I have a Cooler Master mechanical keyboard, Logitech G400S mouse and PCI parallel port adapter for sale. I also have a laptop I am selling.


No, but thanks for inquiring. Others who see your post might, though.

#4418402 - 04/30/18 02:49 AM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: kksnowbear]  
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Bump, been a week or so, hoping to see if any new interest. Also, edited OP to clarify about some of the older stuff. Thanks smile

#4420632 - 05/14/18 12:56 AM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: kksnowbear]  
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I have a few new things so let me look at what I have and I will message you. Also I live over a little west in Birmingham so shipping would be super easy if I have something for you.


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#4420641 - 05/14/18 02:54 AM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: Reschke]  
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Originally Posted by Reschke
I have a few new things so let me look at what I have and I will message you. Also I live over a little west in Birmingham so shipping would be super easy if I have something for you.


Thank you - look forward to hearing what you come up with! smile

#4420667 - 05/14/18 11:23 AM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: kksnowbear]  
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In the Atlanta area, huh? That's actually pretty close by!

Alas, my hardware's got a big gap between my Q6600/8 GB DDR2-800/GTX 760 4 GB box and my main 4770K/32 GB DDR3-2400/GTX 980 system I can't part with yet. (Maybe when I move on to i0 or Threadripper HEDT and Volta in a few years, but not before then.)

Most of what I deal with outside of those is either convertible laptops (Sandy/Ivy Bridge generation is what I'm running right now) or retrocomputing stuff (Mac, Amiga, would add an X68000 to the fleet if I could afford it), and you don't seem to be interested in any of that.

It does make me wonder what you've built up to close the gap with my two most recent systems outlined above, though. The Q6600 holds itself up pretty well considering that it's over a decade old by this point (try doing that with anything prior to Core 2 Quad!), and my younger bro seems pretty content with it overall (outside of the CPU hog that is BeamNG.drive), but I feel like I could try giving him something better to work with with one of your ready-to-rehome systems, if the price is right.

I suppose there is one thing I can help out with: I slapped a custom liquid-cooling loop on the Q6600, hoping it would stabilize it at 3.6 GHz by keeping the temps low enough, but it actually performs worse at that clock speed. I don't think the mobo can keep up with the power delivery requirements there. I've been thinking of downgrading that back to a conventional tower HSF for simplicity's sake and offering up the loop components (XSPC Raystorm Copper, XSPC 240mm rad and fans, ACOOL D5 5.25" bay pump/reservoir, fittings and tubing), should you want to get your feet wet into overclocking beyond what air cooling would allow.

#4420746 - 05/14/18 04:34 PM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: kksnowbear]  
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Hello NamelessPFG

Maybe we can get together sometime, enjoy a cool drink and share war stories. I think I may have just the thing for your "techno-gap' there...maybe quite a few options, in fact smile

As I'm sure you know, after the original Core2 duo/Quad CPUs, the next series of Intel CPUs was the first-gen Core i-series (i3/5/7). I have a fair selection from a couple of those platforms, to other more recent setups, including 3rd- and 4th-gen i5 and i7's. I actually don't have any 2nd-gen (2500/2600) CPUs/builds, simply because I found/bought the Z68 boards that were reasonably priced and already PCIe 3.0 capable. This way makes more sense IMHO, because buying those boards will support 3rd-gen (Ivy-Bridge) chips with a BIOS update. So, instead of Sandy Bridge, I have Ivy Bridge setups that can run recent graphics cards at full speed. (Although I do appreciate that saturation of a PCIe 2.0 x16 link is arguable, it is becoming less so). The costs overall are comparable, so it seems just as well to go with Ivy Bridge. Of course, now it is very different than when all this stuff was still current generation.

As far as capabilities, I have to admit that - until you mentioned it - I'm not familiar with BeamNG.drive. Seems very interesting, although I'm typically more a flight sim guy. But, if you can stand the shameless advertising smile I can tell you a little about the way I produce the builds:

First, consider I have two 20-something sons; a "home-grown" play-testing labor force, if you will. Only one lives at home now, but the other does come for sleepovers, whereupon they play together, online, often with friends. Games like PUBG, Squad, one plays WOW, BF1, maybe Overwatch, ARK, GTA5, Fallout 4 going back a bit...I honestly have trouble keeping up biggrin biggrin biggrin Point in all that is that these are the titles I use for "testing". Right now, PUBG is very popular - even though I may not be into it myself, the thing is, they're going to sit and play anyway, and I get free testing out of the deal *lol*. It usually goes fairly well; I don't typically give them a machine to run unless I'm already pretty sure it's going to run well.

So, the games above - mostly the newer titles - are my test criteria. Of course, we adjust graphics, etc as needed, depending on the exact build we're testing. I have a fairly good idea of the range that will run all those games at least on lower settings; I can tell you a machine like that is going to start in the $500-600 range (but that also generally includes a boot 120-240G SSD *and* a 500G-1TB HDD, 16G RAM and of course price depends heavily on the GPU). Plus, one thing I am adamantly proud about is that every machine I sell comes with a legit Windows license. Many used systems have a 'bootlegged' OS installed from one questionable source or another; I don't (and won't) do that. I also typically offer a 1 week money-back trial period, 90 days - 1 year warranty, reasonably-available on call tech support, free boot drive image restoration, free upgrade labor, and a guaranteed upgrade buy-back policy.

I even have 3-4 AMD setups, if that's your preference. As with new/retail stuff, it's more budget-friendly than Intel/Nvidia, so I have a few less expensive but still very capable all-AMD builds, too.

The GPUs I put in these systems range from R7-760 on the AMD stuff, or GTX 570 (Nvidia), to up around GTX 980s, 1060s, a R9-380...depends on what I can get my hands on for the right price wink Also, I am usually very careful to not 'mismatch' the mainboard/CPUs with the GPUs. It's possible to build a high-end GPU with a low-end CPU, but it doesn't make a lot of sense. Over time, I've built a database of records for hundreds of systems/configurations with all sorts of combinations of GPUs and CPUs, and I generally build/recommend components that are evenly matched, to what the user wants to do with the machine *and* to one another. A lot of effort goes into taking all this into account as well as the 'upgrade path' if it's important to the user.

Most all the stuff as above will fall in the $500-800 range. At the high end, I don't usually sell much that approaches $1,000 (I can do it and have, just can't really afford to sit on that much cost for too long).

On the super-budget end; like you, I have some older Core2 duo/Quad stuff - even a couple of the Extreme CPUs (QX-6850, -9650). Couple of setups with those on boards that supported 2-way SLI; GTX 450's, 460's on up to 560Ti's (all picked because of being 2G RAM or less and relative performance). They are such gorgeous, wonderful machines but just can't run today's more demanding games...I have sold setups like this for as little as $200, depending. Hard to beat, IMHO, long as you're not trying to play the latest titles.

And if you want even more budget-friendly, I have machines that are more just 'productivity' machines...some with older GPUs (say ~9800GT), 4-8G RAM, CPUs like Core2 duos...these machines can go for $100, still perfectly capable for browsing, homework, email, documents and spreadsheets...even a lot of not-terribly-old games, too wink

Not low enough? Here's what I say to people all the time: You want a machine, from forty dollars to four thousand, built to meet your budget and reasonable performance requirements? Let me know, I can probably do it smile

On the liquid cooling *lol* getting my feet wet, very "punny" indeed biggrin But, I'm afraid I'm already in it up to my eyes *lol* I've built a dozen or so like that; mine is, as well as both my sons'. Sold a couple that way...have an i7-980x here now that's up for sale with a liquid cooler in it. But, to be honest, I had reservations about liquid cooling for along time before I 'took the plunge' myself several years back. Since then I've gained some knowledge and experience, as well as confidence in the hardware. But I'm still pretty sold on 'self-contained' all-in-one systems you can buy, because they're fairly inexpensive now, usually easy to install, and very highly reliable IMHO. I honestly haven't found myself at the level of performance you've been to with custom-built plumbing smile I would imagine the performance of custom-built loops is comparatively higher, but I'd also imagine a comparatively time-consuming effort. As it is, I spend far more time on these builds than there is even remotely any money in them smile

Anyhow - give me a shout, any time. I'd welcome the chance to discuss it with you.

#4424871 - 06/06/18 01:09 PM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: kksnowbear]  
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Bit late, been busy to respond, but check your email inbox. I'm taking my correspondence there if it's easier for the two of us.

#4428574 - 07/02/18 01:09 PM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: kksnowbear]  
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kksnowbear I have an i7-920 installed on an EVGA motherboard with RAM and I just need to boot it up and make sure it still posts and runs properly. I am pretty sure I have a EVGA GTX660 or GTX760 that went on there with it as well. I just need to go through all my stuff and see what I have. I have 4 systems sitting in my office that just collect dust right now and 1 that is waiting on a new case and RAM in order to make it into a nice backup for the gaming/HTPC for the house. I will drop you a PM here later today IF I get a chance to boot the motherboard and CPU combo I have here needing a new home.


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#4428576 - 07/02/18 01:21 PM Re: WTB GPUs and some other PC parts [Re: kksnowbear]  
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Hi Reschke, thanks for your letting me know. I'll look forward to hearing more smile

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