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#4427347 - 06/23/18 02:17 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Gattsu]  
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There's always a few things you can try to get rid of stutters.

Standard procedure if you update from a previous version is to go to the 'Saved Games/DCS' folder and delete the contents of the 'fxo' and 'metashaders2' folders. This forces the game to recompile the shaders.
Second thing if you are having problems is to check if your graphics card drivers are up to date.

Finally, switching to full screen mode in the sim (press 'LALT+RETURN' while the sim is running) has a huge impact for me regarding consistency of framerate.

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#4427354 - 06/23/18 03:04 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Gattsu]  
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There are a few things that ED could do to get rid of stutters - you conveniently missed that option........and seeing that almost everyone has them regardless of hardware and configuration, it would be a very good place to start.


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#4427358 - 06/23/18 03:31 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Gattsu]  
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Originally Posted by Paradaz
There are a few things that ED could do to get rid of stutters - you conveniently missed that option........and seeing that almost everyone has them regardless of hardware and configuration, it would be a very good place to start.


Silly me, wanting to help the OP out. I'm sure his time is much better spent talking #%&*$# about ED and not spending 5 minutes to try the most common things that hinder performance in DCS that none of you have even thought of, instead immediately suggesting to spend money on additional hardware.

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#4427363 - 06/23/18 03:48 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Gattsu]  
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If community members have already optimised their configurations and own powerful hardware, yet still have stutters there is only so far you can go before the onus is on ED to fix the problems.

Several members have mentioned DCS config elements in various places and it is expected that everyone (including the OP) is capable of searching for optimal config settings rather than us just create duplicate posts and information that can be found with minimal effort.

The truth is that we all know DCS is unoptimised and inefficient regardless of whether you choose to defend it to your dying days. The fact that you identify any negativity as '#%&*$#' only reflects in your inability to see and understand criticism especially when the comments are absolutely factual.

You even mentioned 'getting rid of stutters'. You can try and minimise the problem but I'd suggest from my experience that is nigh on impossible.


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#4427364 - 06/23/18 03:52 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Paradaz]  
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Originally Posted by Paradaz
Several members have mentioned DCS config elements in various places and it is expected that everyone (including the OP) is capable of searching for optimal config settings rather than us just create duplicate posts and information that can be found with minimal effort.


That is what drives this forum? Excuse me, i didn't get that over all the posts lamenting EDs incompetence. I guess any argument can be bent to your favour if it just serves as an excuse to criticise me. cheers

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#4427365 - 06/23/18 04:00 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Gattsu]  
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That's because ED display incompetence at every juncture and it's commented on, you'd think ED would learn from mistakes......I guess that if you move the goalposts you are trying to claim double-jeopardy whereby when they mess something like the Nevada terrain up, wouldn't be able to criticise their attempts at any other terrain if they borked that too.

Or when they were 5 years late with the Nevada terrain you wouldn't be allowed to be disappointed with the other 50 times they were late with modules, terrain and promised fixes.

Common sense Sobek.....and I discuss ED and DCS functionality, I really have no interest in you or slagging off community members so don't go playing the victim card.


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#4427366 - 06/23/18 04:07 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Sobek]  
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Originally Posted by Sobek
Originally Posted by Paradaz
Several members have mentioned DCS config elements in various places and it is expected that everyone (including the OP) is capable of searching for optimal config settings rather than us just create duplicate posts and information that can be found with minimal effort.


That is what drives this forum? Excuse me, i didn't get that over all the posts lamenting EDs incompetence. I guess any argument can be bent to your favour if it just serves as an excuse to criticise me. cheers


Paradaz, are you fooking serious? smile

Thanks for the posts Sobek

I was not aware of tip number 3, despite the expectation of being capable smile

#4427367 - 06/23/18 04:07 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Sobek]  
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"Finally, switching to full screen mode in the sim (press 'LALT+RETURN' while the sim is running) has a huge impact for me regarding consistency of framerate."

Does that mean the in-game fullscreen option don't work?


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#4427370 - 06/23/18 04:25 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: IceecI]  
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Originally Posted by IceecI
Does that mean the in-game fullscreen option don't work?


IDK really, for some it works, but many people report an improvement on stuttering when using the 'LALT+RETURN' key combination.

#4427373 - 06/23/18 04:28 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Sobek]  
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Originally Posted by Sobek
Originally Posted by IceecI
Does that mean the in-game fullscreen option don't work?


IDK really, for some it works, but many people report an improvement on stuttering when using the 'LALT+RETURN' key combination.


I C.


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#4427401 - 06/23/18 07:23 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: bisher]  
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Originally Posted by bisher
Paradaz, are you fooking serious? smile

Thanks for the posts Sobek

I was not aware of tip number 3, despite the expectation of being capable smile


Absolutely serious.......and as you are a regular on the ED forums it's surprising you didn't know about that 'trick' if you have ever had to search for tips on minimising stuttering. If you've not had to search for tips on stuttering before then it's obviously not a problem you've ever had and therefore nothing to worry about. It's helped many people over the years and appears in many posts on the official boards where stuttering and video settings are mentioned. Ultimately, it's just another example of EDs incompetence......They haven't optimised the performance of DCS, yet will be aware of this helping with maintaining a frame rate. That means they either don't know what the cause of the issue is and can't fix it, or haven't bothered trying.

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#4427409 - 06/23/18 08:50 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: IceecI]  
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Originally Posted by IceecI

Does that mean the in-game fullscreen option don't work?


I've never heard it did. Nor has it ever worked on my machine since v2.0 anyway. Well, it switches to borderless windowed mode, which is not the same thing as FS. After these years Alt-Entering is still required at least once during gameplay to switch to FS. I got used to it and it's no biggie for me, but I do wonder why ED never managed to fix it once for all. This peculiarity didn't exist in 1.5.xx era after all.

#4427414 - 06/23/18 09:11 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Sobek]  
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Originally Posted by Sobek
Silly me, wanting to help the OP out. I'm sure his time is much better spent talking #%&*$# about ED and not spending 5 minutes to try the most common things that hinder performance in DCS that none of you have even thought of, instead immediately suggesting to spend money on additional hardware.

Did you even read the first post? Will your advice work for someone on a HDD? Or is it really better for him **in more ways than just DCS** to get an SSD?

Besides, it's not us that has raised the requirements from 4-8GB RAM to 16GB RAM to cover up for poor coding. It's not us who is telling people to "evolve with the times" and get additional hardware. smile Or have you forgotten about this post?


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#4427488 - 06/24/18 08:47 AM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Gattsu]  
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Originally Posted by Gattsu
Hello,

I suffers many stutters playing the free plane in Instant Action (free flight). I will buy the BS2 from Steam, so I can return it. But with the training missions and others things, 2 hours fly fast.
So can you give me advice for the configuration and things I have to know to run DCS smoothly.

My PC:

Intel Core i5-4690k (I don't overclock for fear of PC degradation).
EVGA GTX 1070 8GDDR5
G.Skill F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL (8gb RAM DDR3)
1 TERA HHD
NO SSD


Recommend an SSD first on the basis a of a few things
1. When you see how Windows loads faster than your iPhone you will kick yourself
2. Playing DCS (with) 32GB RAM windows by default seems to be using 11 to 16GB of the page file (on your HDD) - (yes I know you can change switch this off etc blah)


8G of VRAM on the 1070 should be good for now - have a look at what it uses. I am thinking 8G main RAM is starting to look low worth checking if your MoBo supports more for future.


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#4427491 - 06/24/18 09:47 AM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: MigBuster]  
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Originally Posted by MigBuster

Recommend an SSD first on the basis a of a few things
1. When you see how Windows loads faster than your iPhone you will kick yourself
2. Playing DCS (with) 32GB RAM windows by default seems to be using 11 to 16GB of the page file (on your HDD) - (yes I know you can change switch this off etc blah)

8G of VRAM on the 1070 should be good for now - have a look at what it uses. I am thinking 8G main RAM is starting to look low worth checking if your MoBo supports more for future.

Something weird there, I have 6% page file usage of available 2048MB. I don't think DCS would take that much unless you are with 8GB or less RAM. My max RAM usage lies around 12-14GB.

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#4427498 - 06/24/18 11:01 AM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: MigBuster]  
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Originally Posted by MigBuster
2. Playing DCS (with) 32GB RAM windows by default seems to be using 11 to 16GB of the page file (on your HDD) - (yes I know you can change switch this off etc blah)

Am I reading this correctly? DCS is using 32GB RAM + 11GB to 16GB pagefile for a total of 43GB to 48GB usage????


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#4427504 - 06/24/18 11:44 AM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Gattsu]  
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No ... It's not THAT bad lol - this is more truthful. I also have 8GB RAM cached with RAM cache, so that can be reduced from total amount of used memory.

https://imgur.com/a/xsl4RcM


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#4427520 - 06/24/18 01:51 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Gattsu]  
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Firstly I am using the 2.5 Stable version so aware that memory management may have changed if you run Open Beta.

Think I have seen over 24GB main RAM usage in Multiplayer a while back but - if for example start up AWACs hunt F-5E mission it is using over 12GB of the physical RAM in the hanger.
Page File Usage is today around 13GB - when it says usage that is "committed" the actual use is something I haven't bothered looking into.

I also for personal preference reasons use a 16GB static page file - dynamic system resizing of the page file on a HDD is another thing you may not want so when I say default that is probably misleading.

The game is on low settings because I haven't upgraded my card yet so VRAM is maxed and have never seen it use more than about 0.3GB of the available shared GPU memory.

Have solved stutters in the past with gfx drivers and profile settings but as far as the OP goes an SSD is a win regardles!


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#4427522 - 06/24/18 02:09 PM Re: DCS World stutters [Re: Gattsu]  
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That mission takes 6GB memory when in hangar.


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