#4424860 - 06/06/18 12:17 PM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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Surprisingly, handles well at extremely low speed less than 100 kts at high altitude, and probably high AoA. But between 100 to 200 knots particularly low, which is really an unfortunate area of the flight envelope, I have to constantly stare at the airspeed, having the AoA bracket available only helps somewhat or is unsteady at best, as the airspeed varies wildly. I think the power, drag coefficient or their interaction is not properly modeled, or possibly the FBW/FCS, either how the FCS actuates the flight control surfaces generating an incorrect input or is otherwise related to the algorithm, possibly needs work but it's just an opinion, and I know it's the EAH.
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#4424908 - 06/06/18 05:22 PM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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Surprisingly, handles well at extremely low speed less than 100 kts at high altitude, and probably high AoA. But between 100 to 200 knots particularly low, which is really an unfortunate area of the flight envelope, I have to constantly stare at the airspeed, having the AoA bracket available only helps somewhat or is unsteady at best, as the airspeed varies wildly. I think the power, drag coefficient or their interaction is not properly modeled, or possibly the FBW/FCS, either how the FCS actuates the flight control surfaces generating an incorrect input or is otherwise related to the algorithm, possibly needs work but it's just an opinion, and I know it's the EAH. I have noticed it too. She seems very unforgiving that those speeds.
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#4425090 - 06/07/18 09:11 PM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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So how is the A2A and A2G combat?
There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB. The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed. There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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#4425099 - 06/07/18 11:07 PM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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#4425134 - 06/08/18 09:08 AM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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I have it.
Really good , least for me even now because my favorite era is 70-80 , so im happy with sparrows. And patches and updates come fast now.
Things are finally moving faster with dcs , patches and updates come almoust every week.
FPS is better too, even in VR.
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#4425141 - 06/08/18 10:24 AM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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Over here in Australia hornets are quite easy to "shoot down" with a can of wasp spray. Thank you Blackwoods, thank you Europe for the importation of the European "wasp" Great for WVR with it's 4mtr lock on ability MSA Hornet killer
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#4425143 - 06/08/18 10:31 AM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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I have it.
Really good , least for me even now because my favorite era is 70-80 , so im happy with sparrows. And patches and updates come fast now.
Things are finally moving faster with dcs , patches and updates come almoust every week.
FPS is better too, even in VR.
I can only assume you're in open beta? My Viggen is still in pretty much the same sad state it was when pre-released 1½ years ago with every second update fixing adding same faults (and very very far from weekly updates)
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#4425164 - 06/08/18 12:57 PM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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Really good , least for me even now because my favorite era is 70-80 , so im happy with sparrows. And patches and updates come fast now.
Things are finally moving faster with dcs , patches and updates come almoust every week. Patches/updates have always come regularly....It's the issue of what is fixed and what existing functionality gets broken that is the problem........and the priority of what gets fixed i.e. rain droplets rather than fundamental flight characteristics. Anyway, not to deviate from thread, I haven't bought it and won't do so until it resembles promised functionality
On the Eighth day God created Paratroopers and the Devil stood to attention.
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#4425167 - 06/08/18 01:14 PM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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I'm not talking about buying it or not buying it, there's really not much choice anyway, so most people who are interested will probably buy it, and if you're a big fan of the F-18C, the once ugly duckling YF-17, then you're happy. But not one of their original FC aircraft, particularly superiority aircraft which put them on the map, has been enhanced with any minor in the cockpit functionality or improvements such as adding some additional radar functionality, or slightly more fidelity of the TWS. The only reason I heard of them was because of the Lomac, FC series, I was never involved with the TFC. It makes you wonder what ED has been doing for the past 15 years, if the most basic of things like low speed flight behavior is not completely developed, and I'm not talking about simply crashing a plane into the deck. I regard patches as stitching a torn piece of clothing, it makes you feel a bit better superficially that a few of the numbers have been moved around, but it's not the same as having the original thing.
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#4425242 - 06/08/18 09:21 PM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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Really good , least for me even now because my favorite era is 70-80 , so im happy with sparrows. And patches and updates come fast now.
Things are finally moving faster with dcs , patches and updates come almoust every week. Patches/updates have always come regularly....It's the issue of what is fixed and what existing functionality gets broken that is the problem........and the priority of what gets fixed i.e. rain droplets rather than fundamental flight characteristics. Anyway, not to deviate from thread, I haven't bought it and won't do so until it resembles promised functionality Like BMP-2s blowing Flankers out of the sky. It has been about three years now? Apparently trees should now block ground vehicle visibility, but that doesn't help much on NTTR or PG maps. Gun, rocket and even bomb runs are almost suicidal. A BMP-2 or guy using a manual swiveling turret atop of a hummer (with no radar to assist with aiming) will blow you out of the sky after 2-3 runs. Outside of AGMs you can't really do CAS in DCS right now. That is a huge problem seeing that we have a few $50-60 modules out or coming out that are centered around these types of air to ground weapons. Now I don't think the guys doing the affects have anything to do with the guys working on the AI, but they either need to refocus on this issue or bring aboard someone who can. Air to air missiles is the next big one. They're going to need to rework missile dynamics for the Hornet and F-16. I can't claim I am a missile expert, but I don't think I can ever hit an enemy fighter at 10nm with an AIM-120 regardless of altitude, speed or launch angles. So while our expectations may be off I still can't imagine what we have in DCS is even close to realistic.
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#4425293 - 06/09/18 05:38 AM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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Haha, you guys are crazy. Explain? Everyone is talking about the Hornet and DCS functionality.........you’re commentating on the community?
On the Eighth day God created Paratroopers and the Devil stood to attention.
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#4425313 - 06/09/18 03:21 PM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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Ya, I'd say the community is dysfunctional, but crazy?? j/k I'm going to assume he means crazy good
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#4425315 - 06/09/18 03:50 PM
Re: So Who Has the Hornet?
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Haha, you guys are crazy. Explain? Everyone is talking about the Hornet and DCS functionality.........you’re commentating on the community? anyone that does what I do in his free time has to be crazy
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Exodus
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