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#4424673 - 06/05/18 12:53 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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It's a great little BFMer. It has plenty of functionality right now, with more to be added obviously.

The flaps issue is known and will be addressed (in what manner, I don't know since I don't have documentation on hornet behavior, but the pitch down should be prevented - this amount of pitch down is insane). Other aircraft, like the F-15 have it as well but it's a) not so severe and b) compensated for by the flight control system.


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#4424676 - 06/05/18 01:17 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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#4424678 - 06/05/18 01:28 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: GrayGhost]  
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Originally Posted by GrayGhost
It's a great little BFMer. It has plenty of functionality right now, with more to be added obviously.

The flaps issue is known and will be addressed (in what manner, I don't know since I don't have documentation on hornet behavior, but the pitch down should be prevented - this amount of pitch down is insane). Other aircraft, like the F-15 have it as well but it's a) not so severe and b) compensated for by the flight control system.


How did this get missed by in house testing?


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#4424686 - 06/05/18 01:58 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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#4424690 - 06/05/18 02:19 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: - Ice]  
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bisher, you are a nasty person for giving just one image of the Hornet with that skin. More screenies with different angles would be needed to make the world right again! biggrin


lol Ice that is a beautiful skin smile



#4424725 - 06/05/18 07:09 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: bisher]  
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Originally Posted by bisher
lol Ice that is a beautiful skin smile

No doubt! And I'd bet it'll be even more beautiful at certain angles! biggrin


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#4424735 - 06/05/18 07:42 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: IceecI]  
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Originally Posted by IceecI
Can you name some planes which drop nose when putting flaps down? I'd be interested.


The 737 is said to exhibit a pitch down tendency when the flaps are extended, Piper Tomahawk as well. Low wing configurations in general are prone to having a pitch down tendency unless the flaps change the airflow over the tail to compensate or the FCS rules change when flaps are extended.

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#4424745 - 06/05/18 08:08 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: ST0RM]  
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Originally Posted by ST0RM
Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss

and soon to be released in 18F version smile


Hahaha, that has been VRS' line for YEARS


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#4424750 - 06/05/18 08:47 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: IceecI]  
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Originally Posted by IceecI
"The flight modeling is spectacular."
Why do I hear that every time a new module comes out? People apparently become so knowing of any planes' handling characteristics that they feel need to speak out. Then after the first FM update, they're like "yea it's much better now - we luv u ED".
But hmmm... wasn't it as good as ever earlier already?


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#4424753 - 06/05/18 08:59 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: Frederf]  
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Originally Posted by Frederf
You've discovered the secret to having the bestest simulator product ever, not knowing what you're talking about. It's the best! You can be impressed by the supreme realism if you don't know reality. There are no bugs if you don't know it shouldn't do that.

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#4424771 - 06/05/18 10:41 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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#4424777 - 06/05/18 10:57 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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I guess it's unavoidable once people start making silly statements like best module EVARRR!!! smile


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#4424778 - 06/05/18 11:02 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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But Ice here is the deal.....I am not getting into that kind of jackassery anymore. If someone makes a statement like that, then live and let live. Back on my other account here going back to 1999 (and even being a moderator here) my fuse was short and anger swift. I grew the #%&*$# up and realized I was being a total dick-wad in some cases. If someone likes it that much and says something like that, then so be it. I would rather talk about simming, flying, killing bad guys and breaking their #%&*$#.


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#4424782 - 06/05/18 11:27 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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I hope that you realize that these forums are far more rowdier than the consumer support forum - I don't take part in discussions about quality since I don't play DCS very often, but people that do, are very vocal about their opinions.

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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
I hope that you realize that these forums are far more rowdier than the consumer support forum - I don't take part in discussions about quality since I don't play DCS very often, but people that do, are very vocal about their opinions.


I don't mind rowdy at all, just not looking to start pissing contests or have my posts become one.


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#4424790 - 06/05/18 11:59 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: Frederf]  
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Originally Posted by Frederf
Originally Posted by IceecI
"The flight modeling is spectacular."
Why do I hear that every time a new module comes out? People apparently become so knowing of any planes' handling characteristics that they feel need to speak out. Then after the first FM update, they're like "yea it's much better now - we luv u ED".
But hmmm... wasn't it as good as ever earlier already?


You've discovered the secret to having the bestest simulator product ever, not knowing what you're talking about. It's the best! You can be impressed by the supreme realism if you don't know reality. There are no bugs if you don't know it shouldn't do that.


Thought I comment on that, but honestly really don't know what to say.


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#4424792 - 06/06/18 12:12 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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Originally Posted by usafmtl40
Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
I hope that you realize that these forums are far more rowdier than the consumer support forum - I don't take part in discussions about quality since I don't play DCS very often, but people that do, are very vocal about their opinions.


I don't mind rowdy at all, just not looking to start pissing contests or have my posts become one.


no one likes that - you can count on Mods acting before things start getting out of hand smile

#4424818 - 06/06/18 03:03 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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Not trying to stir the Kool aid, but I'm a bit underwhelmed overall, and it has nothing to do with the missing systems or flap behavior, except that the thing is also a complete pig when low on power.

#4424820 - 06/06/18 03:33 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: Faulkner]  
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Originally Posted by Faulkner
Not trying to stir the Kool aid, but I'm a bit underwhelmed overall, and it has nothing to do with the missing systems or flap behavior, except that the thing is also a complete pig when low on power.


Fair statement, not that I decide what's fair but it seems to be what the OP is looking for, opinion re: the Hornet smile



#4424825 - 06/06/18 04:53 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: Azazel]  
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Originally Posted by Azazel
The flight modeling is spectacular


I don't disagree. I enjoy the flight model of the Hornet, but this has nothing to do with 'reality', it's about what I think reality is.

Frederf this is no secret, there was an article in PC Gamer in the 90s that explored this very subject smile



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