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#4424543 - 06/04/18 05:09 PM Not A Hornet Discussion....  
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and what do you think of it (remembering its a beta)?


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#4424556 - 06/04/18 05:46 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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why don't you add a poll - this way we can know as well how many don't have it (like me) or have bought it,

#4424569 - 06/04/18 07:24 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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Judging by the lack of answers.....lol


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#4424572 - 06/04/18 07:52 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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I'd participate in a Poll



#4424574 - 06/04/18 07:53 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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Well I wasn't looking to do a poll. I was wondering what people thought of it so far.


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#4424579 - 06/04/18 08:25 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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Dammit! smile



#4424598 - 06/04/18 10:28 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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I like it.


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#4424608 - 06/04/18 11:22 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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I like it... wink

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#4424615 - 06/05/18 12:53 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Originally Posted by 531 Ghost
I like it... wink

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and soon to be released in 18F version smile

#4424617 - 06/05/18 01:13 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
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and soon to be released in 18F version smile


Hey, he didn't say what Hornet. He said "the Hornet" wink


Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.


#4424620 - 06/05/18 01:25 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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#4424627 - 06/05/18 02:33 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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I bought it, and the Persian Gulf terrain too.

I like it.

#4424636 - 06/05/18 04:33 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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#4424638 - 06/05/18 05:14 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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DCS' F/A-18C Hornet is by far the best flight sim I have ever flown. The flight modeling is spectacular. Nothing comes close. I used to come here all the time, but its turned into a hatefest for DCS. I go elsewhere now rather than read the latest #%&*$# from ICE. Bye.

#4424641 - 06/05/18 06:49 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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"The flight modeling is spectacular."
Why do I hear that every time a new module comes out? People apparently become so knowing of any planes' handling characteristics that they feel need to speak out. Then after the first FM update, they're like "yea it's much better now - we luv u ED".
But hmmm... wasn't it as good as ever earlier already? Well in that case at least it got updated, cause hey - people like nothing more than updates. Updates, updates, updates - whether it's Windows or any other program, updates are always welcome since what could go wrong - afterall updates make all things better, even people's lifes! --- Hmm sidetracked a bit there...

Anyway, back to bug. Hornet is ok, but has some very serious issues with the drag - also "flaps effect" seems to be inverted. I'm not expert with Hornet flight characteristics, but putting flaps down certainly doesn't make your plane's nose to pitch down... like .. ever.
Good sides? Plenty, working pretty well for an unfinished module (~10000x better than my beloved RAZBUMs productions).

Probably gets some updates in near future (whatever that means in ED Land..).

But I like the Bug (now that's sum you won't hear everyday).

And two more of these: () (Nothing more to add to that sentence). ...... doh!


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#4424643 - 06/05/18 07:14 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: IceecI]  
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Originally Posted by IceecI
but putting flaps down certainly doesn't make your plane's nose to pitch down... like .. ever.


Depending on the type, that is actually very wrong. As mentioned in another thread, there are aircraft that have a considerable pitch down tendency when the flaps are deployed. Whether this is the case for the Hornet i do not know, but the above statement is certainly not true.

#4424645 - 06/05/18 07:48 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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Can you name some planes which drop nose when putting flaps down? I'd be interested.


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#4424657 - 06/05/18 10:25 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: IceecI]  
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bisher, you are a nasty person for giving just one image of the Hornet with that skin. More screenies with different angles would be needed to make the world right again! biggrin


Originally Posted by Azazel
DCS' F/A-18C Hornet is by far the best flight sim I have ever flown. The flight modeling is spectacular. Nothing comes close. I used to come here all the time, but its turned into a hatefest for DCS. I go elsewhere now rather than read the latest #%&*$# from ICE. Bye.

Interesting. You go elsewhere now but decide to break your cherry by making your first post a #%&*$# one about me. Such an honor! I wonder if you know that you can skip over content you don't like? Don't read what you don't want to read? Maybe even use the ignore function of the forums? Nah! Too much work, I guess! Bye!!


Originally Posted by Azazel
DCS' F/A-18C Hornet is by far the best flight sim I have ever flown. The flight modeling is spectacular. Nothing comes close.

Originally Posted by IceecI
"The flight modeling is spectacular."
Why do I hear that every time a new module comes out? People apparently become so knowing of any planes' handling characteristics that they feel need to speak out.

I guess Azazel is an ex-Hornet driver! biggrin


Originally Posted by IceecI
Can you name some planes which drop nose when putting flaps down? I'd be interested.

I'd be interested in that as well!


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#4424667 - 06/05/18 11:50 AM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: usafmtl40]  
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I struggle to understand what people mean when they write things like "the flight model is spectacular. Nothing comes close".

You mean this is the best f-18 flight model? The best FM among all flights models?

I could arguably understand the first point. I mean, the others f-18 in the market are the FSX, BMS and XP. I do believe that DCS F-18 is already on the track to be the king with no contest AMONG OTHERS F-18. BMS has always been a F-16 FM simulator. Yes, they did add a few FM for others aircraft but it is not a study level.

The second point is even worse. You would be on track if you say something like "DCS F-18 flight experience gave me the best experience ever" and this would undeniable. Sounding like DCS F-18 is the best FM is pretty stupid because it is implying that others FM are either wrong or sucks, which both would be wrong statements. For example, let's consider both DCS A-10C and F-18 FM. They both have flaws but both are believable and replicate RL with a good degree of fidelity (some more, some less...remember no FM can replicate 100% RL not even professionals). Now you cannot simply say that F-18 FM is better than A-10C just because one gives you more satisfaction, this is just naive. In RL their flight capabilities are simply different, dictated by physics flight dynamics and they will behave completely different. They will provide completely different experience and the same concept applies to flight simulators.

I've read too many time this sort of statement and they always sounded like...this is best flight model ever, superior to anything else in the market. Surely at some point a FM is better than another FM but it not something easy to quantify, moreover for hobbyist like us that has no access to data to compare.

#4424672 - 06/05/18 12:37 PM Re: So Who Has the Hornet? [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss

and soon to be released in 18F version smile


Hahaha, that has been VRS' line for YEARS

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