#4424191 - 06/02/18 04:17 PM
Re: Running DCS on an SSD? Thoughts? Lets discuss!
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Dealing with pictures and videos is different from playing video games, no? Nice try. [what you are asking is if needing 32 GB RAM to run well is indicative that DCS is poorly optimized ? I have no idea if it is. Indeed, it is just a theory I am putting forward and speaking broadly; I don't really care to test it just for DCS.
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#4424257 - 06/02/18 11:31 PM
Re: Running DCS on an SSD? Thoughts? Lets discuss!
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I'm not sure if it's the amount of detail. I just took the F-4 Phantom for a few passes of NYC at 1,000-1,500ft AGL, 35-40fps over the busy areas and high 40s to mid-50s once passed most of the buildings and this was on a 5896x1080 resolution. RAM usage never went past 50% on my 16GB setup, 980Ti. Whether or not we can do anything about it is not the point of the discussion.
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#4424331 - 06/03/18 03:47 PM
Re: Running DCS on an SSD? Thoughts? Lets discuss!
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"I just took the F-4 Phantom for a few passes of NYC at 1,000-1,500ft AGL"
Hooold on there, one dargone minute, Bobaluuie! (That was Quickdraw McDraw). F4 Phantom...New York City? Not DCS, I'm assuming. What sim?
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#4424519 - 06/04/18 03:23 PM
Re: Running DCS on an SSD? Thoughts? Lets discuss!
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I'm no expert, Tom, but shouldn't the system make-do with what you have? I agree that 16GB RAM is sweet to have, but with current RAM prices and assuming the user already has 8GB RAM to start with, my point is that buying an SSD would probably give you better results than buying a 16GB RAM kit. When the system runs out of RAM, it starts using the hard drive. Problem is, even with SSDs, on-load/off load of data from the hard drive is still slower than RAM. I've seen this play out where I work; I work with and analyse large data-sets, and my machine was upgraded to 16GB when I noted 8GB was too slow (and saw windows consistently using 100% of it, while the CPU was at less than a quarter usage). A few months later, some new folks joined my team and got laptops with 8GB. IT had since taken the stance that they weren't shelling out for upgrades because "if they run out of RAM, the SSDs will kick in and act as more RAM." In practice, their machines are a LOT slower than mine once we get into the thick of a busy work day, and lots of items are open and in active use. Some folks now even have newer machines with nicer CPUs; they still have the same problem.
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#4424522 - 06/04/18 03:42 PM
Re: Running DCS on an SSD? Thoughts? Lets discuss!
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Oh yeah! SSD, baby! I moved DCS over to the new hard drive last night. I just ran it. I'm more impressed than I expected to be. Holy smokes. I'm still a bit shocked at how quickly it started. I'm not exaggerating when I tell you that I could have gotten up while it was loading, made my self a sandwich, gotten a drink, come back...and still have it loading! Because I've done it. The only thing that took any time at all, with the new ssd, was when it was loading terrain data. And even that was a fraction of what it used to take. I'm really surprised that it made that much of a noticeable difference. But not just starting faster. I ran a mission that always froze the screen. The F-15, intercept quick mission. It would actually start frozen. Then I'd get mini-freezes through the mission. Not this time. Started immediately. Ran flawlessly. Was firing missles and there were explosions and it didn't even burp. I wasn't expecting the diference to be this dramatic. And I'm still only using 8GB's. Haven't added more memory, yet. Doesn't even look like I have to, now, but I'm doing it anyway. I'm looking forward to putting all of my flight sims on the ssd.
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#4424557 - 06/04/18 05:47 PM
Re: Running DCS on an SSD? Thoughts? Lets discuss!
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Is this the first time you've used an SSD, Pooch? Well, welcome to the club and it's nice to see you getting stoked about it AgressorBLUE, I agree with you re:RAM and IIRC, it is the pagefile that will be used once RAM is used up? But then you are talking about some productivity or video work where the large files do take up a lot of (RAM) space. Games are or should be a different matter entirely, with one article even citing that games that demanded more RAM were due to poor coding more than anything, such as one of the Batman games. Productivity requirements are different because you can demand for more resources as it directly translates to better workflow and possibly more income from time/resources being utilized more efficiently. Gaming requirements are different because it's a hobby, a pastime for the customer so asking for 32GB RAM in a business setting won't really work with asking for 32GB RAM for a hobby.
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#4597442 - 04/19/22 10:48 AM
Re: Running DCS on an SSD? Thoughts? Lets discuss!
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You do realise that not only did you just resurrect a 4 year old thread but that your answer(s) have nothing to do with the thread at all?
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#4597455 - 04/19/22 03:36 PM
Re: Running DCS on an SSD? Thoughts? Lets discuss!
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Yeah, I guessed as much and I was a little hostile in my original reply, hence the self edit. Admin were notified.
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