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#4423787 - 05/31/18 06:09 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 4 [Re: Dondy]  
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F-18 might not be there yet since it's a new module. Putting it on FC4 could potentially lose them a full-fidelity sale and I think ED would want as much of that sale as they can get.

I wonder if the Hog and the Shark were included, would they make the cockpit non-clickable as well? I hope not! I'd love to have my Su-27/Su-33 with clickable cockpit and if ED brings FC4 with clickable cockpit, then there's hope for my Russian birds.


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#4423829 - 05/31/18 09:53 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 4 [Re: BrettT]  
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Originally Posted by BrettT
I have kind of a mixed feeling over the FC aircraft. On the one hand I like being able to get up to speed fairly quickly, on the other hand I find myself wishing they had just a few switches that were clickable just so everything wouldn't need to be mapped or programmed into voice attack, especially since I fly VR only. That being said, I typically don't go through the full start-up and shut down procedures instead I tend to fill in the gaps on the auto-start to get the vehicle setup the way I want it. I have taken the time to learn the start-ups on several of the easier vehicles (L39, WW2 birds, F-5, Huey, F86), I just don't tend to use them. I also have spent serious time in only one of the FC3 vehicles, F-15....which I enjoyed immensely. Since I tend to use the autostart and do enjoy learning how to use the weapons/nav systems in a practical sense....I don't see myself purchasing light versions of modules I already have or have learned.


Clickable is more accessible than not. I understand FC123 planes were made before that was a thing and conversion (aka complete redo) was laborsome. However FC4 and onward there is no reason to have non-clickable cockpits. You're making these new or from existing clickable architectures. Remembering LCtrl-LShift-PageUp is hard. Click the switch is easy. Clickable cockpit has nothing to do with complexity. Maybe FC planes have 10 switches instead of 100 for the study module but they should all be clickable.

#4423833 - 05/31/18 10:15 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 4 [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
F-18 might not be there yet since it's a new module. Putting it on FC4 could potentially lose them a full-fidelity sale and I think ED would want as much of that sale as they can get.

I wonder if the Hog and the Shark were included, would they make the cockpit non-clickable as well? I hope not! I'd love to have my Su-27/Su-33 with clickable cockpit and if ED brings FC4 with clickable cockpit, then there's hope for my Russian birds.


Iron is hot, F18 might be one of FC4 planes.


FC3 level of fidelity AMRAAM/SEAD capable western jet wtih decent datalink is needed!!!

#4423839 - 05/31/18 10:42 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 4 [Re: nadal]  
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Originally Posted by nadal

I wonder if the Hog and the Shark were included, would they make the cockpit non-clickable as well? I hope not! I'd love to have my Su-27/Su-33 with clickable cockpit and if ED brings FC4 with clickable cockpit, then there's hope for my Russian birds.


Iron is hot, F18 might be one of FC4 planes.


FC3 level of fidelity AMRAAM/SEAD capable western jet wtih decent datalink is needed!!![/quote]

Only plane I'm interested in FC level out of the current crop is the F-18 and maybe Harrier. M2000 would be nice, but I'd rather get a more modern -5 or -9 variant. I'd also be interested in variants of current FC planes, such as a MIG-35 or Su-27SM2 / Su-35.

#4423875 - 06/01/18 12:37 AM Re: Flaming Cliffs 4 [Re: Dondy]  
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"FC4 was a chance to introduce new aircraft that wouldn't otherwise be in DCS because they can't be made in full fidelity format,"
Yes! This! The F4 Phantom! I would have bought it just for that one magnificent jet! But I see nothing that makes me even want to think about it. But yeah, they took the lazy route. Airplanes that have already been built.


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#4424834 - 06/06/18 09:27 AM Re: Flaming Cliffs 4 [Re: Dondy]  
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not sure if I will be buying this a forth time ....



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#4425574 - 06/11/18 03:12 PM Re: Flaming Cliffs 4 [Re: Dondy]  
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Not when there are DCS-level aircraft of the same kind offered in FC4.... not unless you skipped on the DCS-level aircraft hoping for a dumbed-down FC-level version in which case this is the perfect module for you.


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