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#4423306 - 05/29/18 04:38 PM DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented!  
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Chuck_Owls preview of the DCS Hornet EA is a good read:

https://www.mudspike.com/dcs-f-a-18c-hornet-early-access-preview/

I'm amazed at how even in EA, it's already an outstanding module packed with features.

I'm sure people will moan and groan over it just being an early access, but I'm with Chuck on this; I'm fine with only being given the "incomplete elephant" at first, considering I can't eat the whole thing at once anyway.


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#4423334 - 05/29/18 07:43 PM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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Looks like he's drank the ED Kool-Aid with the "walk before you run" mantra, which is fine probably if you're coming from Ace Combat and the Hornet is your first full fidelity simulator. But what about those that come from the F-15 and can do A-A in their sleep and are wanting some A-G action without losing the pointy-nose aspect of their aircraft? What about those that come from the A-10C and are wanting some A-A action but not FC3-level avionics and are limited to just the AIM-9 Sidewinder and the AIM-7 Sparrow? What about those coming from BMS and a multi-role fighter and want some carrier ops but don't want to lose their combat capabilities?

I don't mind having an "incomplete elephant" at first just like I don't want to have entree, main, and dessert all at once when eating out. However, I expect all three within a reasonable timeframe, ie, all during that evening at some point. This is very likely not going to be the case for ED. How long do you "walk" with limited A-A capability and dumb bombs before you can "run" with AIM-120s, JHMCS, TGP, LGBs, JDAMs, HARMs, etc.? I bet people will be tired of "walking" and ED won't have any of the "running" anywhere near ready. I'd love to be proven wrong though!! biggrin


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Also, circuit breakers are functional! For instance, pulling the FCS CHAN 1 breaker will have dramatic effects on the Flight Control System. Few developers go to this level of depth for aircraft when it comes to simulating damage and malfunction effects. Luckily for us, DCS keeps pushing the boundaries further with each new module.

I wonder who starts up a combat flight simulator and moans that the circuit breakers aren't functional? Way to push the boundaries of simming, ED!

So, guys, what do you want? Dynamic campaigns? Patches that don't break things that were previously not broken? Fixed missile characteristics? More toys to play with in your purchased modules? A program that works with 4GB-8GB RAM? Nope! We want working circuit breakers!! biggrin biggrin biggrin


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Regarding navigation stufff. we already knew that waypoints can be set in the mission editor… but they can also be edited by using the Waypoint Menu on the DDI and the UFC (Up-Front Controller) keypad and option select buttons to edit the coordinates of existing waypoints.

I hate to break it to you, but the A-10C had this in 2010. Heck, you could make a whole new flight plan from scratch inside the cockpit!


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The F/A-18 brings something new and fresh to DCS: a multi-purpose naval aircraft.

Sorry, but if you're calling this multi-purpose, then so is the Su-27/Su-33 and the A-10C. The Su-33 is also a naval aircraft to boot! What the Hornet really, really brings to the table won't be seen for at least a few more months or even years.


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#4423337 - 05/29/18 07:53 PM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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Sounds like A-10C level simulation but not done.

#4423342 - 05/29/18 08:16 PM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: Frederf]  
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Originally Posted by Frederf
Sounds like A-10C level simulation but not done.

Then doesn't that make it NOT an A-10C level simulation?


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#4423383 - 05/30/18 12:05 AM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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#4423387 - 05/30/18 12:30 AM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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#4423440 - 05/30/18 11:58 AM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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Ice, dude, you're so jaded...I been in the simming gig since circa 1985 with Hell cat Ace on the Amiga and even I'm not as jaded as you, brother. The Hornet is going to be AWESOME


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#4423445 - 05/30/18 12:30 PM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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lol Boomer, Ice will be by shortly to let us know why the F 18 is not awesome. smile



#4423456 - 05/30/18 01:12 PM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: bisher]  
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Ice, dude, you're so jaded...I been in the simming gig since circa 1985 with Hell cat Ace on the Amiga and even I'm not as jaded as you, brother. The Hornet is going to be AWESOME

I'm jaded with ED, yes. Simming, no. Currently flying FSX again just to experience Rod's tutorials wink Enjoying my time in FSX, XP11, BMS, and struggling with taxiing on a taildragger in IL2! I dare not connect my HTC Vive and fly XP11 as I'm afraid I may never look back! yep

I have no doubt the Hornet is going to be awesome. What's coming out today isn't the awesome Hornet I want to fly. I look forward to that day and to be able to join you guys in the virtual skies biggrin


Originally Posted by bisher
lol Boomer, Ice will be by shortly to let us know why the F 18 is not awesome. smile

See above smile


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#4423458 - 05/30/18 01:20 PM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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It's May 30. What happened to the Hornet release?


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#4423460 - 05/30/18 01:23 PM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
Enjoying my time in FSX,


don't spend too much time with FSX - move on to P3Dv4+REX3D, it is simply awesome, really awesome.

Originally Posted by - Ice
and struggling with taxiing on a taildragger in IL2!


and me with my landings biggrin

#4423465 - 05/30/18 01:47 PM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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I don't have P3D, I opted for XP11. I don't really have much add-ons for FSX, I think I only really had OrbX stuff and even then, I wasn't impressed. I'm only playing FSX to replay Rod's tutorials smile I wish there was something like this for XP11 as well but I don't think there is.


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#4423494 - 05/30/18 04:01 PM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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you should give it a try - I moved from FSX to P3D when they released 2.0 and it never disappointed, but one only has so many free hours available and if you have XP11 you are not wasting your time smile

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#4423507 - 05/30/18 04:38 PM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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DCS 2.5.2.17978 Update 1 for Open Beta

DCS F/A-18C Hornet is available in the Early Access.
Added CVN-74 J.C.Stennis aircraft carrier.

DCS World

Added scripting functions for airbase parking data (true/false parameter).
Group list immediately shows changes which user made in unit panel
Airlifted troopers will not ignore point and radius zone of embarking.


DCS Flaming Cliffs

Su-27. Slat indicator will works.
Su-27. Fuel level gauge fixed.


DCS UH-1

Added new Instant action missions for Persian Gulf.
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DCS MiG-21Bis by Magnitude 3 LLC

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Corrected Russian text on the T-10 indicators and radar lights.
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L-39 Kursant - updated missions 2, 8, 9.
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F/A-18C. Fly over waypoint Time on Target causes DCS crash
CVN-74 J.C.Stennis: Left side elevator hasn’t collision model


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I ended up buying the Hornet. I missed the discounted pre-purchase price, so I bought it at the full $79.99 price.











Just joking, didn't get the Hornet. Figured the above would give some people a stroke though. rofl

We'll see how it goes over the next few months. I assume they'll be quicker than most 3rd party devs, but it has been a while since ED released an aircraft module hasn't it?

#4423624 - 05/31/18 04:06 AM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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It's got enough functionality to start you on learning how to fly it. You can do BFM with it as well, and a bit of BVR.


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#4423651 - 05/31/18 09:44 AM Re: DC Hornet: Even the freakin' Circuit breakers are implemented! [Re: AggressorBLUE]  
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Originally Posted by AggressorBLUE
Chuck_Owls preview of the DCS Hornet EA is a good read:

https://www.mudspike.com/dcs-f-a-18c-hornet-early-access-preview/

I'm amazed at how even in EA, it's already an outstanding module packed with features.

I'm sure people will moan and groan over it just being an early access, but I'm with Chuck on this; I'm fine with only being given the "incomplete elephant" at first, considering I can't eat the whole thing at once anyway.


Let's see mudspike actually publish an honest review of an EA.....Publish my Hawk review thread or link at least a link to it with a nice write up over at mudspike.. at least mine was honest and not watered down to suck in and 'buy consumer's" .


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