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#4421471 - 05/18/18 09:36 PM Are octopuses alien?  
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There was only 16 squadrons of RAF fighters that used 100 octane during the BoB.
The Fw190A could not fly with the outer cannon removed.
There was no Fw190A-8s flying with the JGs in 1945.
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#4421472 - 05/18/18 10:00 PM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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If so, yummy alien. readytoeat



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#4421475 - 05/18/18 10:24 PM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Anything's possible, I suppose, but it seems like extraterrestrial DNA and viruses would be more likely to have affected development rather than frozen eggs landing on Earth. I think that the eggs surviving is less likely, and for them to be compatible with Earth's environment and food sources seems like a long shot.


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#4421480 - 05/18/18 10:36 PM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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So much ocean....seems to me that hominids are the likely aliens


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#4421486 - 05/18/18 11:18 PM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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The Cambrian Explosion is one of the great mysteries of life and it's diversity. A cometary impact bearing a swag of new genomes could be an answer. Fascinating.


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#4421488 - 05/18/18 11:32 PM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Interesting theory, but until we have definitive proof aliens actually exist, pure speculation.

#4421489 - 05/18/18 11:49 PM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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It's not so much "aliens" as such, but genetic material brought to Earth in a comet 500MYO. Sheer accident really.


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#4421490 - 05/19/18 12:07 AM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Interesting theory, but until we have definitive proof aliens actually exist, pure speculation.


Unless you assume the long odds that we are the only intelligent life in the entire cosmos, then they do exist.


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#4421491 - 05/19/18 12:29 AM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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I'm at my desk right now. I know it.

I cannot definitively prove it however.


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#4421492 - 05/19/18 12:33 AM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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I can prove where I am. I have two idiot dogs staring at me, as witnesses. smile


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#4421496 - 05/19/18 12:51 AM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: cichlidfan]  
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Originally Posted by cichlidfan
I can prove where I am. I have two idiot dogs staring at me, as witnesses. smile


Your reality is merely a sum of your senses. You think, therefore you are. However, because your reality is a sum of your senses, it does little to prove what your reality truly is. Simply because your dogs are staring at you doesn't mean they are--or dogs, for that matter. They are interpreted as dogs by your eyes and your brains but... ponder this:

What if your eyes are being told to tell you that those are two dogs staring at you?

If an AI is told that it has an arm, then it assumes it is an arm. Simply feeling pain or touch doesn't prove the arm is there, because the input source can be fed input from an external source/being--necessary signals, to convey the sense that it exists. So if that is the case, can you truly trust your senses?

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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Originally Posted by cichlidfan
I can prove where I am. I have two idiot dogs staring at me, as witnesses. smile


Your reality is merely a sum of your senses. You think, therefore you are. However, because your reality is a sum of your senses, it does little to prove what your reality truly is. Simply because your dogs are staring at you doesn't mean they are--or dogs, for that matter. They are interpreted as dogs by your eyes and your brains but... ponder this:

What if your eyes are being told to tell you that those are two dogs staring at you?

If an AI is told that it has an arm, then it assumes it is an arm. Simply feeling pain or touch doesn't prove the arm is there, because the input source can be fed input from an external source/being--necessary signals, to convey the sense that it exists. So if that is the case, can you truly trust your senses?


That is a wonderful solipsism. By that same measure, neither of us or our conversation is real.


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#4421522 - 05/19/18 07:41 AM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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No the octopussies were already here, it's we that are originally from planet Zeist.

#4421580 - 05/19/18 02:19 PM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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#4421586 - 05/19/18 02:49 PM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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While it's an interesting read, I was under the impression that the idea that life on Earth came from outer space is an old one. Some believe that we are ALL aliens. That we all came from those viruses and DNA being dropped on a still forming Earth.


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#4421653 - 05/19/18 09:33 PM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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I thought it was already established by the brilliant film “Prometheus” that life on Earth was indeed created by aliens? Isn’t this common knowledge?


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#4421680 - 05/20/18 02:10 AM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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"I thought it was already established by the brilliant film “Prometheus”"
Ah yes, of course. That too. It's to bad they couldn't have made the aliens octopuses to tie the whole idea together! Now THAT would have been brilliant.


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#4421694 - 05/20/18 06:03 AM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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It is a huge leap to say that since there are amino acids on comets that life on Earth came from them.

This is like saying that since some meteors are made of iron and nickel, swords arrived from the heavens, sheathed and ready to be drawn and used in battle.

The further leap of saying that since there are some amino acids on comets that some of them also contained viable eggs is absolutely ludicrous, and just flies in the face of what we know about how comets are formed.


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#4421697 - 05/20/18 07:50 AM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: KraziKanuK]  
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Nevertheless, as far as intelligent life is concerned, octopi are what comes closest to aliens that is in reach for us. That alone makes it worth studying them.

#4421710 - 05/20/18 11:51 AM Re: Are octopuses alien? [Re: Pooch]  
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Originally Posted by Pooch
"I thought it was already established by the brilliant film “Prometheus”"
Ah yes, of course. That too. It's to bad they couldn't have made the aliens octopuses to tie the whole idea together! Now THAT would have been brilliant.



Actually they did, Shaw gave birth to an octopuss based on the code from the pathogen that was created by ancient astronauts. The circle of life and all that.

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