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#4417520 - 04/23/18 09:35 PM GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more?  
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Hi Guys,

Seems the card prices have normalized a bit. Even 1080Tis are now around for 800EUR, 1070s for 500.

Has someone heard why this would be... temporary lull, or start of a shift in mining? I don't want to spend right now, but if it means saving 200 bucks then I should.

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#4417574 - 04/24/18 04:00 AM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Hard to tell but I do believe the mining craze is dying down as profits are not what they used to be. I'm not sure if another currency or scheme will come into play that will make it take off again. It could be a gradual decline for the next 1-3 years until another massive mining wave hits for all I know.

Nvidia plans on releasing new GPUs later this year. My GTX 1070 is over 1 1/2 years old and while still a good card I'd probably wait it out unless you really need the upgrade right now. This generation is long in the tooth and I don't like buying GPUs this late in the cycle but again, this depends on your needs and what you currently have.

#4417576 - 04/24/18 04:04 AM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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I heard there was supposed to be a new chip maker out there for miners. Users less Energy.
But I can't confirm that's the cause for sure.
It could just be the drop in prices. people are giving up Bitcoins.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/article...omes-efficient-chip-produced-1430775223/

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/01/technology/samsung-cryptocurrency-bitcoin-mining-chips/index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/03/chi...revealed-a-chip-that-could-hurt-amd.html

#4417578 - 04/24/18 04:06 AM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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hmmm.. price looks fine,
http://www.bitcoinprice.org/

so I'd guess the chip is the reason.

#4417587 - 04/24/18 06:58 AM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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I would suspect a few reasons:
1. Mining profits being low for the past few months so mining wasn't a good idea for those just starting out, therefore less sales and lower demand, more supply = lower price
2. Lots of ex-mining GPUs on the 2nd-hand market further lowers demands for brand new GPUs
3. Speculation of next-gen GPUs coming soon

#3 alone makes me step back a bit and I think I'll wait for next-gen to come out before deciding on an upgrade option. Hopefully, GPU prices for current-gen would be even better by that time too! I just wonder if I can get a next-gen GPU at a normal price or will I be competing with miners again?


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#4417829 - 04/25/18 11:04 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
Hi Guys,

Seems the card prices have normalized a bit. Even 1080Tis are now around for 800EUR, 1070s for 500.

Has someone heard why this would be... temporary lull, or start of a shift in mining? I don't want to spend right now, but if it means saving 200 bucks then I should.

cheers


Hold into your money, the prices still aren't normal and new Nvidia cards in Q3 (if you can wait that long) will force the price down further. GTX1080ti are 700 Euro cards maximum.


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#4417967 - 04/26/18 05:35 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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I agree with Paradaz. But if you really need a card right now (APRIL 2018) then get a Nvidia 1070Ti. This article sums it very well and goes along on what has been posted here:

"Looking at the whole performance spectrum, the GTX 1070 Ti represents the best overall value."

https://www.pcgamer.com/is-the-great-graphics-card-shortage-finally-ending/

(PRICES AS OF APR 2018 IN US DOLLARS)

Nvidia graphics cards
GTX 1050 2GB: July 2016 MSRP $110, currently $140-$175
GTX 1050 Ti 4GB: original MSRP $140, currently $190-$225
GTX 1060 3GB: July 2016 MSRP $200, currently $250-$275
GTX 1060 6GB: July 2016 MSRP $249 ($299 Founders Edition), currently $290-$325
GTX 1070 8GB: June 2016 MSRP $379 ($449 Founders Edition), currently $489-$530
GTX 1070 Ti 8GB: November 2017 MSRP $449, currently $510-$575
GTX 1080 8GB: May 2016 MSRP $599 ($699 Founders Edition), revised Feb. 2017 to $499/$549, currently $600-$650
GTX 1080 Ti 11GB: February 2017 MSRP $699, currently $946-$1000

AMD graphics cards
RX 560 2GB: May 2017 MSRP $99, currently $115-$140
RX 560 4GB: May 2017 MSRP $109, currently $150-$175
RX 570 4GB: April 2017 MSRP $169, currently $260-$300
RX 570 8GB: April 2017 MSRP $199, currently $305-$350
RX 580 4GB: April 2017 MSRP $199, currently $300-$350
RX 580 8GB: April 2017 MSRP $229, currently $327-$375
RX Vega 56 8GB: August 2017 MSRP $399, currently $630-$750
RX Vega 64 8GB: August 2017 MSRP $499, currently $900-$1000


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#4418027 - 04/27/18 12:31 AM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice

#3 alone makes me step back a bit and I think I'll wait for next-gen to come out before deciding on an upgrade option. Hopefully, GPU prices for current-gen would be even better by that time too! I just wonder if I can get a next-gen GPU at a normal price or will I be competing with miners again?


I would wait for the next gen personally, depending on what you have currently. The GTX 1080 will be around two years old when its replacement comes out, if not older. GPU generations are lasting longer than they did in the past. Seeing that you may have to wait another 18-24 months before the replacement for the GTX 2*** generation comes out, I'd rather wait a few months and buy into the upcoming generation while it is new.

The good news is that GPUs tend to be relevant longer than they did in the past. At 1440P my GTX 1070 can still handle practically every game maxed out with 60 frame rates.

#4418095 - 04/27/18 01:07 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: Paradaz]  
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Originally Posted by Paradaz
Hold into your money, the prices still aren't normal and new Nvidia cards in Q3 (if you can wait that long) will force the price down further. GTX1080ti are 700 Euro cards maximum.


A 1080Ti for 700EUR would be the absolute sweet spot. Sure the new series will be faster and better, but realistically for my gaming needs it would do the job just fine.

Upgrading in/before summer seems stupid anyway. Not a time for sitting indoors playing games. I just hope there isn't another new coin coming that drives prices back up.


#4418097 - 04/27/18 01:17 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Bad news. BitCoin and Ethereum prices are creeping back up. Will we see resurgence in miners?


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#4421795 - 05/20/18 10:49 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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buy right now, price will rise soon enough. the miners were just waiting for the new card

#4421811 - 05/21/18 12:13 AM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Prices at my favorite online seller is back to December prices. Now whether those prices were inflated to begin with, I'm not sure, but at least it's not stupidly-high like just a few months ago!

Unfortunately, RAM prices are still quite high, about 75% more than when I purchased my RAM kit in 2015 frown


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#4422403 - 05/24/18 10:37 AM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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For the time the GTX1080s have been on the market you'd expect a lot lower than current... still hoping to break 700.

#4422416 - 05/24/18 12:30 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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I check GPU prices and Bitcoin profitability often -- waiting for prices I'm willing to pay.

Thing is, for AMD GPUs, it might just be better to wait for the next iteration (maybe called Navi) -- rumored only 8 or 9 months away (early next year).

Rumor is that Navi will give RX Vega 64/GTX 1080 performance for about $250. If true, a no-brainer buy for me.

Could be true. Lately, AMD has liked to release their "popular price" GPUs ahead of their "high end" GPUs -- because more folks buy "popular price" than high end.

AMD Computex Press Conference in roughly 13 days may give some clarity.


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#4422499 - 05/24/18 08:38 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Isn't the next-gen nVidia GPUs almost out as well anyway?


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#4422502 - 05/24/18 09:04 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
Isn't the next-gen nVidia GPUs almost out as well anyway?


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#4422507 - 05/24/18 09:19 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Hurrah!!


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#4423817 - 05/31/18 08:24 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Nice, that's good timing for my upgrade plans.

#4423823 - 05/31/18 09:17 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Don't upgrade just yet! Seems like next-gen is just a few months away.


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#4423853 - 05/31/18 11:19 PM Re: GFX Card price drops... anyone knows more? [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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Saw this mentioned elsewhere. Small form factor, but still a 1080.
I'm not familiar with the brand.

ZOTAC GeForce GTX 1080 Mini 8GB GDDR5X VR Ready Gaming Graphic Card,
$499

https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForc...amp;ascsubtag=pcg-1117324013004024364-20


or $550 at newegg.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...fqzHtvbc0RoChbQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


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