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#4414969 - 04/06/18 06:45 AM DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST  
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Do not get your hopes up just yet people but there is something happening here.

Hopefully it does not fold like Kinney Interactive, Coretex, and the other 10 3rd party developers.

Confirmed by NineLine himself.

Expect a 4 year + build, it would be interesting to see what comes of it.

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I am Curious of the 'EDSA' bit, EagleDynamics teaming up with a developer called SA? anyone able to shed a bit more light on who is ESDA?



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#4414970 - 04/06/18 06:48 AM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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#4414972 - 04/06/18 07:08 AM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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Originally Posted by Winfield
I am Curious of the 'EDSA' bit, EagleDynamics teaming up with a developer called SA? anyone able to shed a bit more light on who is ESDA?




Apparently that is the acronym for ED as a registered Swiss company.

Eagle Dynamics SA
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#4414975 - 04/06/18 08:16 AM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: cichlidfan]  
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Originally Posted by cichlidfan
Originally Posted by Winfield
I am Curious of the 'EDSA' bit, EagleDynamics teaming up with a developer called SA? anyone able to shed a bit more light on who is ESDA?




Apparently that is the acronym for ED as a registered Swiss company.

Eagle Dynamics SA
Av. de Florimont 3,
1006 Lausanne, Switzerland
CH-660.2.221.000-8

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/legal/


Thank you, cichlidfan

#4415012 - 04/06/18 12:41 PM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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F-16 !!!

#4415200 - 04/07/18 09:54 PM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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There won't be any ground radar and the a/a/ missiles will still be broken.

#4415205 - 04/07/18 10:19 PM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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Doesn't SA mean corporation?


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#4415262 - 04/08/18 01:05 PM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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yes - is is ED S.A.

#4415322 - 04/08/18 09:38 PM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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I wish them all the luck with that project. They may really be asking for it this time, it'll be compared to the BMS implementation to no end and the dynamic campaign feature of BMS will be put to the forefront even more, greatly highlighting ED's big gap even if they do make it to BMS-level or better in implementation.... which is highly doubtful to start with. Maybe after a 5-year development and a 2-year beta period, they will approach what BMS is **NOW** so who can tell what BMS of +7 years from now would look like?


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#4415348 - 04/09/18 12:20 AM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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I'll be 60 by the time the F-16 is released in early beta ...

#4415352 - 04/09/18 12:37 AM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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You're either very young or very optimistic! biggrin biggrin biggrin


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#4415392 - 04/09/18 10:52 AM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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it is going to take at least 3 years for it to be released - the average wait time being 4 to 5 years, so I am being optimistic biggrin

#4415411 - 04/09/18 12:23 PM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted by Tom_Weiss
it is going to take at least 3 years for it to be released - the average wait time being 4 to 5 years, so I am being optimistic biggrin

3-5 years from the time they get started on that module. With 2.5 on their plate plus the Hornet, I don't think ED has the spare staff to even go and make coffee, let alone start on yet another complex, modern, multi-role aircraft. So 3-5 years development, which starts 2-3 years down the road, round it off to 10 years from today? That's barring any private contract delays smile


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#4415421 - 04/09/18 12:55 PM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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now that Eagle Dynamics is a Swiss firm maybe things will change biggrin

3-5 years is probably the time frame buyers should have - once the Hornet is out and they have the code framework my guesstimate is 3 years for a finished product, one has to be positive about this wink

#4415513 - 04/09/18 07:02 PM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
I wish them all the luck with that project. They may really be asking for it this time, it'll be compared to the BMS implementation to no end and the dynamic campaign feature of BMS will be put to the forefront even more, greatly highlighting ED's big gap even if they do make it to BMS-level or better in implementation.... which is highly doubtful to start with. Maybe after a 5-year development and a 2-year beta period, they will approach what BMS is **NOW** so who can tell what BMS of +7 years from now would look like?


But it will be pretty looking smile

That said, I imagine it will still find a customer base. If you're the type of person who's invested in building a home F-16 pit for BMS, are you really not going to buy the DCS module just to take it for a spin?

But yeah, I think 4 years from now DCS will need a lot more features that are back filled, including a campaign/career mode (I rather like the way that the new career mode works in IL2 BOK, myself) to stay relevant.

For me, career mode + F/A-18 = happiness. A viper would just be icing on that cake.


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#4415518 - 04/09/18 07:14 PM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted by - Ice
... compared to the BMS implementation to no end and the dynamic campaign feature of BMS will be put to the forefront even more, greatly highlighting ED's big gap...


I know a lot of people talk about dynamic campaigns and it certainly is a popular feature for flight sims, but many simply don't have any desire for such a feature. Personally I've never once looked at DCS and thought "I really wish this game had a good dynamic campaign". There are probably a dozen changes to the mission editor alone I'd like to see implemented before any time is put into a dynamic campaign.

But I agree, the comparisons to Falcon certainly be brought to the forefront. I don't see that as a bad thing though. With luck the Hornet built some common ground work that can be used, but I still think it will be many years before we see a playable F-16 in any form in DCS.

#4415549 - 04/09/18 10:53 PM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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While I agree that ED has a lot of work to do to get everything right with what they have already released, I would love seeing a dynamic campaign at some time in the future.

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Originally Posted by AggressorBLUE
But it will be pretty looking smile

Yeah, that's the important bit, innit? biggrin Maybe up the minimum requirements to 128GB RAM?


Originally Posted by AggressorBLUE
That said, I imagine it will still find a customer base. If you're the type of person who's invested in building a home F-16 pit for BMS, are you really not going to buy the DCS module just to take it for a spin?

I have XP11 and FSX; I don't need or want to buy an F-16 in any of those sims. Why spend money on an inferior product when there's a superior one available?

It will still find a customer base as "superior" may be subjective; I'm sure if they made an F-16 at FC3 levels, it'll still find a customer base. It'll probably be the same people who buy every module as well. smile


Originally Posted by Flogger23m
There are probably a dozen changes to the mission editor alone I'd like to see implemented before any time is put into a dynamic campaign.

There are a lot of things to change with the sim itself, so good luck to them if they decide to take this on. Maybe there is a reason why, even after that silly poll, that ED has not taken this project on yet. Maybe even at their current state, ED knows they cannot survive if they take this on.


Originally Posted by Flogger23m
But I agree, the comparisons to Falcon certainly be brought to the forefront. I don't see that as a bad thing though.

Exactly! This may actually turn out to be a very good thing..... for BMS smile


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I don't believe this will ever be a real comparison to BMS. Simply because if it does not meet the expectations then the community/ED or whatever will simply says that it is not an ED product so maybe if it were an ED product then the result would be totally different.

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#4415712 - 04/10/18 05:33 PM Re: DCS: F-16C by EDSA & BST [Re: Winfield]  
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If it's done by "EDSA & BST" then does that not make it an ED project? So if it's done by EDSA & BST, it's actually a product of BST and not by ED?


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