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#2435035 - 01/29/08 07:25 PM COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES  
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As many of you know, there are a wide variety of controllers/input devices available. I've put together a list that are currently available. Items shown here are off the shelf and available w/o mods. If I've missed any, please feel free to add to the list...

HOTAS Manufacturers:

CH Products
Thrustmaster
Saitek
Logitech

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HOTAS Available:

CH Products FighterStick
CH Products CombatStick
CH Products FlightStick Pro
CH Products ProThrottle

Thrustmaster Warthog
HOTAS Cougar
T Flight HOTAS X

Saitek X52 Flight Control System
Saitek X52 Pro Flight Controller System
Saitek X65

Logitech G940
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Racing Wheels/Gas Pedals/Shifters:

Logitech MOMO
Logitech G25
Logitech G27
Logitech Driving Force GT
Logitech Driving Force Pro
Thrustmaster Wheels/Pedals
FANATEC Racing Wheel

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Rudder Pedals:

CH Products ProPedals
Saitek ProFlight Rudder Pedals
Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals
Simped Rudder Pedals

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Flight Yokes:

CH Products Eclipse Yoke
CH Products Yoke
Saitek ProFlight Yoke
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Joysticks:

CH Products
Logitech
Saitek
Thrustmaster
Black Widow Joystick/HOTAS
Tarmac Aces
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Throttle Quadrants:

CH Products Throttle Quadrant
Saitek Pro Throttle Quadrant

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Multi Function Panels/Displays/Thingamajigs biggrin :

CH Products Multi Function Panel
XKeys Pro USB
Ergodex DX1
Touch-Buddy
PocketMPD
Belkin Nostromo SpeedPad n52
Track IR
CH Products DT225
Logitech Mice
Logitech Keyboards
Saitek Keyboards and Mice
Thrustmaster MF"D" Cougar Pack
Camspace

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Head Tracking:

TrackIR Pro
Facetracknoir

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Voice Command Input:

Game Commander 2
Voice Buddy
Voice Activated Command

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I/O Boards:

Ulltimarc ipac Board USB PC interface for buttons and joystick ( 32 buttons).
Leo Bonar's BU0836
Hagstrom Electronics KE-USB36 USB Keyboard Encoder and Trackball Interface
Open Cockpits
Epic

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Off the "shelf" Cockpits:

Obutto,
Playseat
Hotseat
Dreamflyer
Kwikpit
Simulations Cockpit
Rainman Simulations

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Cockpit Building Websites/Resources:

Mikes Flight Deck
Mikes Flight Deck/Book
Sim Projects
FS Cockpit
Simpits


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Articles/Reviews:

SimHQ Article: Programable HOTAS Systems

SimHQ Tech Reviews


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#2920862 - 12/16/09 03:06 AM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: hannibal]  
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Anybody using a Luxeed keyboard? It has no number pad, so it would fit better in between two joysticks, or a joystick and throttle. Unforturnately, it has slim keys and the function keys don't light up. But it still looks like it might be good for sims, so long as you don't mind reassigning keys.

#2920884 - 12/16/09 03:53 AM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: XarBat]  
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That's a nice find - and I can think of a lot of uses.


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#2920909 - 12/16/09 04:49 AM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: Joe]  
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The luxeed isn't a bad price compared to the other keyboard related stuff. It would be a must have if it could be programmed to respond to in game events.

#3217201 - 02/24/11 04:02 PM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Okay guys, made some additions to the list of controllers and input devices as well as added I/O boards. And, as always, thanks for the input!

beercheers


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#3217490 - 02/24/11 08:56 PM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Thanks Ghost sorry for the confusion yesterday!


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#3217682 - 02/24/11 11:41 PM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Originally Posted By: 531 Ghost
Okay guys, made some additions to the list of controllers and input devices as well as added I/O boards. And, as always, thanks for the input!

beercheers
Thank you Ghost.

t mais
tityus

#3253752 - 03/31/11 05:30 PM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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I have a PlasmaMM2 USB panel from betainnovations, but I don't know, how can use under the win7, that I use more than 32 buttons every game and I make the profile in the F4IM program or any software. And how can setup the axis sensitiveness, deadzone , linearity etc ...

#3253981 - 03/31/11 07:38 PM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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it might be a good idea to replace the thrustmaster afterburner with the thrustmaster t-flight HOTAS.x or atleast add it to the list since it is the current version of that stick and the top gun afterburner and afterburner II links are dead
link for HOTAS.X http://www.thrustmaster.com/product.aspx?ProductID=149&PlatformID=5

#3254014 - 03/31/11 07:58 PM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Done. Thank you.


Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln
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#3254038 - 03/31/11 08:05 PM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: Repvez]  
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Originally Posted By: Repvez
I have a PlasmaMM2 USB panel from betainnovations, but I don't know, how can use under the win7, that I use more than 32 buttons every game and I make the profile in the F4IM program or any software. And how can setup the axis sensitiveness, deadzone , linearity etc ...


No time to look at the moment,but would it be in the .pdf?

http://www.flightsystemsltd.com/ICP/ICPManual-Matrix.pdf


Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln
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#3802480 - 06/28/13 10:36 AM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Must do many changes to the list :

Rudder pedals:

Simpeds are not produced anymore
You must add mine : http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3782056/1


It goes into production very soon.

And there are VKB and BRD too, I must say :-)

For the controllers there is much more exstensive list too, as I searched and tested a few myself by choosing right one fr my pedals

GVL224(at)ukr.net ...ukrainian talented producer...able to produce custom layout pcb at competitive price, and working magnetoresistive sensor too.
http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=586

Then there are few other 12 bit controllers :
http://analogtousb.com/Products/HAB8012.aspx
http://flightsimcontrols.com/store/joysticks/controller-njoy32/
http://simrace.hgsitebuilder.com/circuits
+ a few DIY controller projcts - 10 bit.
+ there are others for cca 50 eur which don't work right out of the box, but have good configuration software...I don't remember the names and don't have links but do yourself research if you need such device


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#3817822 - 08/03/13 04:23 AM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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You could add PJRC's Teensy boards to the I/O list. www.pjrc.com/teensy

I've been using them to make custom hardware for X-Plane. You can use them in three ways:

- as a joystick controller, sending axis positions and button presses to the computer like a normal joystick
- as an Arduino-compatible project board, connecting to the simulator via the USB serial port
- connecting directly to X-Plane (over the serial port) via libraries included with the IDE. This makes it incredibly simple to build X-Plane custom hardware.

The Teensy boards are Arduino-compatible, but superior to Arduino in how they connect to the computer - integrated USB or something, I don't understand it myself smile So they can do stuff Arduino can't do.

Also they're incredibly cheap. Possibly not as good as a dedicated joystick control board like the ones made by Leo Bodnar, based on the generalisation that a multi-purpose device is inferior to the specialised device. But I haven't checked this for myself!


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#3818659 - 08/05/13 05:27 PM Re: STICKY: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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#4279519 - 07/16/16 08:09 AM Re: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Awesome thread with lots of useful links, exactly what I need. I've just come back to PC sims after an absence of about a decade... Should have found this a bit earlier though since it would have saved me lots of hours searching for which HW/SW to use.

Something missing is remapping software, more specifically SW to remap joystick to keyboard. Especially if there is any SW capable of remapping joysticks with more the 32 buttons would be useful for me. I have a control device with 56 inputs and no remapping SW I know of can handle more then 32 buttons.

#4279642 - 07/17/16 12:06 AM Re: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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SVmapper works wonders for remapping devices in excess of 32 buttons. In fact I seem to be able to remap up to 128 buttons + 8 axis for one BBI-32.

SVMapper: http://www.derekspearedesigns.com/download/SVMapper1.0.0.59.zip

#4279939 - 07/18/16 06:19 PM Re: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Teensy isn't exclusive. Check the Arduino Pro Micro clones, they come in at $3, carry the same ATMega32u4 as the teensy, and with the NicoHood firmware it turns your device into a fully functional usb HID device.

#4279944 - 07/18/16 06:54 PM Re: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Shameless plug:

... and some day you will be able to use both to create your own Thrustmaster TARGET software with this: BlueJoy

If I can get some freaking time to work on it. frown


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#4302378 - 10/11/16 12:26 PM Re: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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some additions...

I/O-Boards:

- Pokeys56U and Pokeys57U
- X-Keys USB Encoder Board
- Arcaze USB interface
- Code Mercenaries (all kind of HID)
- Provisionell.de (a german newcomer for USB-interface cards)
- Arduino 2650 Mega R3 (with Link2FS or MobiFlight for MSFS / ArdSim for X-Plane / Link2FS Arduino Keys for
universal "Switch to Keyboard-Emulation" in any kind of simulator)


HOTAS Available:

- VKB (manufacturer of the Black Mamba / Defender Cobra M5 / Gladiator Pro)
- Speedlink (new AIRROW - is a low budget production of the VKB Gladiator Pro - more for WWII pilots)
- Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS HOTAS


Rudder Pedals:

- VKB T-Rudder Pedals Mk.III
- VKB T-Rudder Pedals Mk.IV
- Thrustmaster T.Flight Rudder Pedals


Racing Wheels/Gas Pedals/Shifters:

- Logitech G29
- Logitech G920

And don't forget Bugeye Technologies... But for the most of us there is only "look don't touch" possible, cause you have to be a millionaire or a military training center to pay those prices biggrin. It's sadly just good for looking at the real thing in case of building your own diy replika thumbsup .


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#4414346 - 04/02/18 07:06 PM Re: COCKPIT HOTAS/CONTROL SYSTEMS/INPUT DEVICES [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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To add to your list:

www.realsimworld.com

They currently produce a F16C HUD replica with ICP mount.

I own one and it is perfect

check: realsimworldfanpageofficial @ insta


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