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#4393038 - 12/03/17 11:21 PM Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think?  
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Let's have a little contest here. Just put how many days you think ED will land on for online DRM. Let's keep this strictly on topic and keep the ugly out of it.

Just put down how many days you think. Winners will get some bragging rights.

There's no way they're doing 90. Thirty days is a stretch as well...I'm going to say 14 days.


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#4393039 - 12/03/17 11:23 PM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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#4393042 - 12/03/17 11:24 PM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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Willing to split the bragging rights.

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#4393043 - 12/03/17 11:25 PM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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I think the poll will extend to the point that 90 days 'wins' with about 50% of the votes but there is no way on earth ED will opt for that. I reckon they'll go with 30 days......any less than that and it still won't help many people.


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#4393047 - 12/03/17 11:48 PM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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#4393063 - 12/04/17 12:47 AM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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7 is the highest they'll go, I think, and they'll make a big fuss about how they listened to the community and how they're protecting their assets and how the 7 days is the bestest, most awesomest timeframe ever.

I think 30 would be better, 90 would be great, and I would give ED serious credit if they decide on 6 months.... but my bet is we'll end up with 7 days.


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#4393078 - 12/04/17 01:26 AM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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I hope they update the DRM as fast as other fixes to game.

I say 7 because they started with 3 and there's no way they do 30 or 90.

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#4393092 - 12/04/17 03:48 AM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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#4393094 - 12/04/17 03:56 AM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Frederf]  
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Originally Posted by Frederf
Unlimited.


You honestly believe TFC/ Eagle Dynamics is going to set the re-verify time at Unlimited?



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#4393116 - 12/04/17 08:10 AM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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If they have any ethical integrity it is the only option.

#4393127 - 12/04/17 10:38 AM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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They'll keep it at 3 days because they know best.

#4393135 - 12/04/17 11:20 AM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Frederf]  
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Originally Posted by Frederf
Unlimited.


I think he is right ... why?

Because TFC (See EULA page) are based in the UK and have to follow uk law when selling digital items . .and
if they change to this new system they might be breaking the law and opening themselves up for people claiming refunds
on all ED purchases that use this new system, could you imagine what what happen to them if everyone reported them to UK trading standards and ask for refunds ?

Maybe everyone who doesn't want this new system logs into https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com site
and raises a support ticket asking about getting refunds for all ED products they own

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#4393136 - 12/04/17 11:23 AM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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That's where the tricky part comes in, it only applies to AV8B for now.
When they move modules over one-by-one I imagine less people will "notice".

#4393150 - 12/04/17 12:39 PM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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#4393155 - 12/04/17 01:22 PM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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Want 30 as a minimum, expect ED to do 7. I hope they are in breach of EU regs, I will be asking for a refund of every module if that's the case. I have a lot of modules.

#4393158 - 12/04/17 02:07 PM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Force10]  
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Ok,I'll ask.What's wrong with the DRM they have now? I've never had an issue with it except where I've forgotten to de-activate a module before uninstalling DCS (which I have done many,many times in the past).


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#4393167 - 12/04/17 03:08 PM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Chucky]  
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Originally Posted by Chucky
Ok,I'll ask.What's wrong with the DRM they have now? I've never had an issue with it except where I've forgotten to de-activate a module before uninstalling DCS (which I have done many,many times in the past).



Nothing at all it works great in my opinion ...... but its costs ED money per key ...... they are trying to save a buck and screw us at the same time



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Think 30 would be more reasonable but ED might go 7

#4393219 - 12/04/17 07:09 PM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: Chucky]  
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From our perspective, nothing.

From their perspective, I suspect two things:

1) They have to pay for StarForce keys, and my understanding is that they are not exactly cheap - but don't quote me on that
2) They may have noticed a lot of SP sessions with a whole lot of different IPs ... while you couldn't run multiple sessions concurrently, all someone has to do is block access to the activation server after activating once, and they now have a perfectly working game, they can receive updates for it etc. In other words, they may have noticed a lot of practical piracy - but this is a pure guess on my part.

Originally Posted by Chucky
Ok,I'll ask.What's wrong with the DRM they have now? I've never had an issue with it except where I've forgotten to de-activate a module before uninstalling DCS (which I have done many,many times in the past).


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#4393225 - 12/04/17 07:32 PM Re: Based on ED's poll...how many days do you think? [Re: GrayGhost]  
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Originally Posted by GrayGhost

2) They may have noticed a lot of SP sessions with a whole lot of different IPs ... while you couldn't run multiple sessions concurrently, all someone has to do is block access to the activation server after activating once, and they now have a perfectly working game, they can receive updates for it etc. In other words, they may have noticed a lot of practical piracy - but this is a pure guess on my part.



Not an IT guy so this might sound silly to the ones that are.

Don't most residential ISP services have dynamic IP addresses that change often?
Would that not lead to a false positive that so many "Different" IP addresses are seen?



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