#4392285 - 12/01/17 02:47 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: Johnny_Redd]
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 517
159th_Viper
Flyin' it like I Stole it......Always!
|
Flyin' it like I Stole it......Always!
Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 517
Texas, USA
|
Im sure it smells of roses up there History repeats itself over there - easy to predict a pattern. As said previously, Starforce drivers = meltdown. Proactive = another meltdown. And here we still are. I wonder why.
|
|
#4392288 - 12/01/17 03:03 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: 159th_Viper]
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 258
IceecI
1975-1997 R.I.P.
|
1975-1997 R.I.P.
Member
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 258
|
The "how long before its no longer financially viable to continue due to lack of customers" clock.
27 years of history and no indication of any hiccups so no reason to worry now. Gather 100 DCS users, start doing stand-up comedy and drop that line - guaranteed laughs
Give a man fish and he gets food, give a man a fishing rod and he asks for another one.
|
|
#4392291 - 12/01/17 03:30 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: IceecI]
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 517
159th_Viper
Flyin' it like I Stole it......Always!
|
Flyin' it like I Stole it......Always!
Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 517
Texas, USA
|
The "how long before its no longer financially viable to continue due to lack of customers" clock.
27 years of history and no indication of any hiccups so no reason to worry now. Gather 100 DCS users, start doing stand-up comedy and drop that line - guaranteed laughs And a thousand nods of agreement It's not all one way or the highway - there's always another side to every story.
|
|
#4392312 - 12/01/17 08:14 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: Monnie Rock]
|
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 797
leaf_on_the_wind
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 797
|
Not trying to put fires out at all - just attempting to separate the wheat from the chaff and get real concerns put forward to the Devs which would otherwise be drowned out by the illogical, unconstructive rants of the vocal few as is usually the case when change is contemplated.
Viper Are you officially associated with Eagle Dynamics in any role? e.g. a beta tester, a mod, etc? Not any more, he was one of the "mods" over there for a while He had to be retired after wearing out his Ban Hammer banning thousands of people
Ferengi Rule of acquisition #1 Once you have their money ... never give it back.
|
|
#4392319 - 12/01/17 10:09 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: 159th_Viper]
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,922
Paradaz
Senior Member
|
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,922
UK
|
History repeats itself over there - easy to predict a pattern. As said previously, Starforce drivers = meltdown. Proactive = another meltdown.
And here we still are.
I wonder why. 2 reasons; 1: ED don’t learn from their mistakes 2: The incompetence on display for desktop products is bankrolled from commercial/military products Otherwise Wags wouldn’t have to release a public statement crying about why the company he works for are so poor at their jobs and begging half of his existing customer base not to jump ship to 1C-777/BOx.
On the Eighth day God created Paratroopers and the Devil stood to attention.
|
|
#4392321 - 12/01/17 10:24 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: leaf_on_the_wind]
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Remon
Member
|
Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Greece
|
Well, that's a weird way to read the letter by Wags... Truly unbiased.
Are you still playing the game Paradaz?
Last edited by Remon; 12/01/17 10:24 AM.
|
|
#4392322 - 12/01/17 10:25 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: leaf_on_the_wind]
|
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 797
leaf_on_the_wind
Member
|
Member
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 797
|
Basically any good will from Matts "Letter from the bottom of my heart" Has been p1ssed away with the DRM debacle that is on going
Deceptive or inept ? Not sure which is true ..... how come No mention of the new DRM when people might have been pre-purchasing the Harrier
Response from ED minions ... Matt wrote the letter the management team wrote the DRM
Do they not communicate ? Surely there would be an email trail , minutes of meetings etc showing that this was discussed
Ferengi Rule of acquisition #1 Once you have their money ... never give it back.
|
|
#4392323 - 12/01/17 10:27 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: Johnny_Redd]
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Remon
Member
|
Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Greece
|
The "how long before its no longer financially viable to continue due to lack of customers" clock.
According to people here ED should have been closed due to financial problems years ago... Meanwhile, according to steamcharts, the amount of people playing the steam version of DCS is almost double of that of Il-2 BoS, even if it is a small sample. You people here clearly represent just a minority of the sim community.
Last edited by Remon; 12/01/17 10:32 AM.
|
|
#4392328 - 12/01/17 11:14 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: Johnny_Redd]
|
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 203
FartHog
Member
|
Member
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 203
UK
|
The "how long before its no longer financially viable to continue due to lack of customers" clock.
Military contracts will always keep them afloat. End users will always suffer an ED will continue to be propped up by shills & minions. ...I haven't touched dcs for a year...but it seems little has changed.
|
|
#4392329 - 12/01/17 11:24 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: FartHog]
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Remon
Member
|
Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Greece
|
Yes, it's just shills, minions, and the thousands of people that buy their products. ...I haven't touched dcs for a year...but it seems little has changed.
Well, if FartHog hasn't played for over a year, that can only mean that the game is dying.
Last edited by Remon; 12/01/17 11:26 AM.
|
|
#4392333 - 12/01/17 11:41 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: FartHog]
|
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 203
FartHog
Member
|
Member
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 203
UK
|
ED will continue to be propped up by shills & minions.
...I rest my case.
|
|
#4392334 - 12/01/17 11:51 AM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: leaf_on_the_wind]
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Remon
Member
|
Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Greece
|
Oooh, what an argument... Everyone who doesn't take part in the SimHQ anti ED circle jerk is a shill and a minion. Fantastic logic! By that logic, everyone that hates DCS is a shill of 777.
Last edited by Remon; 12/01/17 11:51 AM.
|
|
#4392339 - 12/01/17 12:14 PM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: FartHog]
|
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Remon
Member
|
Member
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,342
Greece
|
I'm not arguing...you are. Then I don't think you know what "I rest my case" means.
|
|
#4392342 - 12/01/17 12:32 PM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: 159th_Viper]
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 57
Hellfire257
Junior Member
|
Junior Member
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 57
|
Just LOL at Sith and Viper (not even a mod there I think) trying to put the multiple fires out on the DCS forum. It's a terrible drm system, and a bait and switch bringing it in after people had bought the AV8. Not trying to put fires out at all - just attempting to separate the wheat from the chaff and get real concerns put forward to the Devs which would otherwise be drowned out by the illogical, unconstructive rants of the vocal few as is usually the case when change is contemplated. Are you officially associated with Eagle Dynamics in any role? e.g. a beta tester, a mod, etc? No. Not associated at all, apart from being a satisfied consumer, that is. #%&*$#! Absolute #%&*$#! After deleting posts where I obviously made things difficult for the Chuckle Brothers over in the USSR, a certain somebody wasn't very quick with editing in the reason for post deletion, and what was displayed? Deleted by, yes, you guessed it, 159th_Viper. Unfortunately, it's now been edited away. So unless he's had his "MODERATOR RIGHTS REVOKED" somebody just told a massive porkie because he actually has moderator powers. Furthermore, guess who's listed in numerous, including fairly recent, credit sections published by ED themselves? One certain Gavin “159th_Viper” Torr. Definitely not a moderator, and definitely not a tester.
|
|
#4392345 - 12/01/17 12:43 PM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: Hellfire257]
|
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 203
FartHog
Member
|
Member
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 203
UK
|
Definitely not a moderator, and definitely not a tester.
Secret Police ?
|
|
#4392348 - 12/01/17 01:05 PM
Re: Eagle Dynamics - New protection system = the very definition of Bait and switch
[Re: Hellfire257]
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 517
159th_Viper
Flyin' it like I Stole it......Always!
|
Flyin' it like I Stole it......Always!
Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 517
Texas, USA
|
The diatribe you just posted? Absolutely. Grade 1 #%&*$# indeed. Straight outta Main Street. But then that’s conduct becoming these days it would seem over here. What a pity. As I stated, it’s been years since I ceased being a moderator over at ED forums but hey, continue waving the SimHQ anti-ED flag.
Last edited by 159th_Viper; 12/01/17 01:06 PM.
|
|
|
|