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#4392105 - 11/30/17 05:29 PM Cessna Intercept by F-16s  
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#4392128 - 11/30/17 06:43 PM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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Must've been hard slowing down that much so as not to be a blur from the Cessna's POV smile Might've been more appropriate to send Warthogs!


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Originally Posted by - Ice
Must've been hard slowing down that much so as not to be a blur from the Cessna's POV smile Might've been more appropriate to send Warthogs!


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#4392143 - 11/30/17 07:20 PM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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Well, that's the whole point of the intercept, is it not? smile Plus the Warthog can probably fly formation and fly close enough to scare the Cessna pilot to change course. After all, I'm sure the Hog can survive a small nudge but the Cessna would probably end up spinning to the ground....


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#4392152 - 11/30/17 07:56 PM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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So........maybe I'm missing something here..........they actually launched two fighters at public cost just so these guys could have a news clip ? or would this have been part of a regular practice drill ?


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#4392179 - 11/30/17 09:05 PM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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I am surprised that they don’t have two interceptors on cockpit alert at the TFR. It isn’t the time to takeoff and fly, it is the time required to suit-up and get in the plane.


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#4392180 - 11/30/17 09:08 PM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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Would have been cool to see them put out a few flares in front of them. biggrin

I think this was staged. They would be crazy to try that unannounced.

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#4392182 - 11/30/17 09:12 PM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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I think it was staged because I can't imagine someone purposely breaking TFRs just to show the world what happens. Those pilots would be fined and disciplined, especially when ignoring ATC calls.

I think it was probably a collaboration between the government and the news station to get the word out---but then why not do it with a national news agency rather than a local one?

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It was definitely staged. Local news station because National Guard is a State and not National asset.


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#4392229 - 11/30/17 11:53 PM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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Originally Posted by bones
I think it was staged because I can't imagine someone purposely breaking TFRs just to show the world what happens. Those pilots would be fined and disciplined, especially when ignoring ATC calls.

I think it was probably a collaboration between the government and the news station to get the word out---but then why not do it with a national news agency rather than a local one?

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As said in the clip, it was staged.


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#4392242 - 12/01/17 12:57 AM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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I like the story about the little old lady in her J3 Cub that took off from her grass strip and got into President Obama's TFR.

She played dumb, waved at the fighters that whooshed past her, and landed at her destination on the edge of it.

Met with a bunch of law enforcement, she went into harmless grandma mode ("I thought they just liked my little Cub!") and got off with a warning.

Of course she was a ferry pilot in WWII with tons of aviation experience - and the second she saw them figured it out. But she also knew how to work the system.

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#4392249 - 12/01/17 01:19 AM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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Originally Posted by KraziKanuK
Originally Posted by bones
I think it was staged because I can't imagine someone purposely breaking TFRs just to show the world what happens. Those pilots would be fined and disciplined, especially when ignoring ATC calls.

I think it was probably a collaboration between the government and the news station to get the word out---but then why not do it with a national news agency rather than a local one?

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As said in the clip, it was staged.


Also the plane they were in had huge ID logos on the fuselage so the jets would have known what was up as soon as they had visual anyways even if it wasnt staged. (which it is possible it was a planned exercise and the pilots didnt know it was at the time.)


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#4392272 - 12/01/17 02:16 AM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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I wonder if the F-16 pilot's call-sign was Bronco?


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#4392308 - 12/01/17 06:53 AM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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I didn't watch the video, but I don't have to.........I knew sooner or later OG would end up being chased by an F-16, or maybe an F-18 over water, near the coastline. It was inevitable.

I told him not to mount those .30 cal's.

Does he listen......NOOooooooooooooo...........


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Originally Posted by Murphy
I didn't watch the video, but I don't have to.........I knew sooner or later OG would end up being chased by an F-16, or maybe an F-18 over water, near the coastline. It was inevitable.

I told him not to mount those .30 cal's.

Does he listen......NOOooooooooooooo...........

Is that a cardinal rule Murphy?


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#4392344 - 12/01/17 12:43 PM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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Cardinal rule. Good play on words Alicatt. An obscure reference.


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Originally Posted by Alicatt
Originally Posted by Murphy
I didn't watch the video, but I don't have to.........I knew sooner or later OG would end up being chased by an F-16, or maybe an F-18 over water, near the coastline. It was inevitable.

I told him not to mount those .30 cal's.

Does he listen......NOOooooooooooooo...........

Is that a cardinal rule Murphy?


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Originally Posted by No105_Archie
So........maybe I'm missing something here..........they actually launched two fighters at public cost just so these guys could have a news clip ? or would this have been part of a regular practice drill ?


my guess it was during a drill, the 104th FW in MA holds these probably every 3rd month or so with CAP. They announce it in the paper so people aren't freaking out when they see a fighter going after a small private plane.

years back when Bush JR was in office and they used to go up to summer in Kennebunkport I saw AF 1 fly over my house as he went from Manchester NH to Sanford ME. It's probably only only a 15 min flight max so they were around 4-5K feet. Not more than a minute after AF1 went over I could hear fighters ripping up the sky. Here's this little Cessna flying in the same direction as the President. They had him land at a very small airport in our town, Secret Service, State and Local police all met him there and were searching his plane by the time I got over there. The F-16 was still circling overhead the entire time...

Idiot flew down from MT Washington and obviously didn't check the NOTAMs prior to departing...


These are the notices they put out about this

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Media Advisory — 1o4th Fighter Wing
July 14, 2014

Contact:
104fw.pa@ang.af.mil
413-568-9151 x698-1263
Senior Master Sgt. Robert J. Sabonis, Public Affairs Manager

The 104th FW is scheduled to conduct a practice scramble of two F-15 Eagles on July 16, 2014 from approximately 9:30 a.m. – 11:00 a.m. The intercept mission will occur over the northern Massachusetts, southern Vermont and eastern New York area, so those communities are anticipated to be affected by increased flying activity. Affected communities include the North Adams, Williamstown, MA; Brattleboro, Bennington, Shaftsbury, and Manchester Falls, VT; Lake George, Cambridge, Glens Falls, and Granville, NY areas.

The F-15 fighter jets will train with the Civil Air Patrol. The Civil Air Patrol will be flying a low-speed civilian propeller aircraft. This exercise is conducted to facilitate training for alert pilots on intercept procedures, ensuring the Massachusetts Air National Guard is prepared to defend the Northeast airspace against any airborne threat.

These exercises are carefully planned, closely controlled and include exercising airspace restriction violations, hijackings and responding to unknown aircraft. Communities in the mentioned area may experience increased aircraft activity during the duration of this exercise.

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#4392437 - 12/01/17 05:05 PM Re: Cessna Intercept by F-16s [Re: bones]  
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This stuff happens in the DC area on a regular basis and also along the route from DC to Camp David.


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