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#4388074 - 11/03/17 06:09 PM Frugal's World A moment in time  
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Just a blast from the past.

--Here's the old Quick Campaign Tips thread from Frugal's AF forum. Now that takes me back.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080529133446/http://forums.frugalsworld.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=126328

--A snapshot of the topics in the F4 forum

http://web.archive.org/web/20080528144155/http://forums.frugalsworld.com:80/vbb/forumdisplay.php?f=11

--A snapshot of the topics being discussed in the Allied Force forum

http://web.archive.org/web/20080529015611/http://forums.frugalsworld.com:80/vbb/forumdisplay.php?f=73

--The main forums page

http://web.archive.org/web/20080530013800/http://forums.frugalsworld.com:80/vbb/index.php

--My recruitment post for our old Frugal's GPL league. I won, 3 seasons in a row biggrin

http://web.archive.org/web/20080219153503/http://forums.frugalsworld.com:80/vbb/showthread.php?t=108292

Just thought a few of the old timers 'round here would enjoy the trip back smile


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#4388079 - 11/03/17 06:18 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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Don't know why they aren't links, but works if you paste them in

You can change the date of capture at the top to see snapshots from various points in Frugal's World's existence


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#4388094 - 11/03/17 07:33 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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Nice!
I remember one could send beer to eachother, that's what I call quality forums haha.



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.. and it seems -ronin- won the "Who ever posts in this thread last is Frugs top posting supremo" biggrin

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And cookies too. Or award a medal or all kinds of stuff. It was fun and also the infamous [you] thing. Do you remember that


This is a great site, every member is cool, except for [you]

And everyone who saw the post saw their own name appear. What a hoot smile


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#4388100 - 11/03/17 07:43 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: theOden]  
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Originally Posted by theOden

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.. and it seems -ronin- won the "Who ever posts in this thread last is Frugs top posting supremo" biggrin


haha, so it did have a winner smile


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#4388101 - 11/03/17 07:44 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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haha hell yeah, totally remember when I got that [you] first time, totally confused.

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Lots of good memories from there, Aragorns "The UNLOCKABLE FO Thread.", just crazy stuff haha

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Btw these are all snapshots I guess so maybe ronin didn't win, maybe we will never know.

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Oh, yeah good point,


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Wow, that kinda hurts to see. In a lost love sort of way.

You guys did a great job moderating over there. I never saw a bad call.

I wish I could see someone install that color scheme again, it's so easy on my eyes!!!

If you ever hear from Mark tell him I appreciate all what he did. Still do.

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Thanks Lee. We had a moderator's lounge private forum where various indiscretions and violations were discussed, and well, it was a different time. Very rarely was any drastic action agreed. At most a short time-out usually. There was actually one member who I wanted to perma-ban, since I just couldn't stand him. But personal feelings can't be part of it of course. Still, I so wanted to do it. To wield my power mwuhahah and smack him hard with the ban stick. How you like me now?!

But yeah, the mod crew was a pretty sane and even-keeled group and we sure let a lot go smile


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Totally missed Frugals so no idea... frown


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Thanks so much, DBond, for refreshing the memories... I browsed the linked pages with a tear in my eye... Good old days of Frugal's with the fora so lively, many helpful posts regarding the subject matter, but lots of fun, too. (The Pilot's Bar, rep-whoring wink etc.) I even found the screenshot thread I had started in the Jane's F/A-18 subforum, not archived, unfortunately. So many familiar nicknames and callsigns smile All I can say is pity it's gone. BMS forums are fine but the Frugal's World atmosphere is probably impossible to reproduce anywhere. Thanks again, Sir!

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I remember visiting the website all those years ago but that's about it.

This is the same Froogle though isn't it? I regularly watch this guys output.



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#4388417 - 11/06/17 01:26 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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No that has to be a different Froggle/Frugal.

Mark Frugal Bush was in to civ flight sims though, so maybe he has been among us all along under the nom de guerre Froogle smile That would throw us off his track.

Hey TG, my pleasure. You and I used to discuss guitars didn't we?


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Yep, guitars and the Gothic Saga we were so fond of in those days. I play quite a lot (the guitar, I mean), chiefly at home or at parties, for my friends, but I do an occasional gig, too. Currently i have a Gibson SG and a nice French made LAG acoustic. Well, here's a sample, if you care to listen to it.
https://soundcloud.com/coda1953/my-inmprovisation-on-pachelbels-canon-in-d-major-chord-progression

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No sound here at work, but I'll check it out later.

Oh yeah, Gothic. Those were the days lol. I've had my eye on Elex or whatever the new Gothic is called. Have you tried it?

I still have all of my guitars, and now I have a young son who I'm teaching which is so awesome. My current stable is two Les Pauls, two Strats, a Tele, a PRS, a Blueridge and a Fender acoustic. Plus a few others which escape me at the mo. Still have the Marshall stack, and few combo amps, Fender Blues Junior get used the most.

I bought my son a scaled-down Strat that's a spitting image of my '62 RI. Three-tone burst with rosewood 'board. He thinks it's so cool that we have the 'same' guitar. thumbsup


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This thread is slowly turning into a miniature Frugals biggrin
Good times, good times.

(and no, BMS is far from Frugals - the thing with knowledge-based forums such as flight sim forums is that people enjoy showing off their superior levels an/or go mayhem over the fact someone on internet is "wrong" and things easily turn toxic, this was kept very well-contained on Frugals IMO and maybe not so much on BMS ditto - closest to Frugal Quality today is, IMO, SimHQ despite this place had not the best reputation among the Frugalites - or was that only Mower? haha)

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There were some serious flame wars at Frugals. We did our best to both keep them contained and to also allow a good deal of latitude. It was a forum where you had to have your big boy pants on.

For me anyway, it was the forum that had the most personality, the most camaraderie. It was a lot of fun hanging out there. I used to write feature articles for Frugal's, and got lots of good sims before release to write reviews. Like Steel Beasts and Battle of Britain for example. The Frugal's World Grand Prix Legends leagues we used to run were probably the best time I've had on the internet. I loved that stuff and miss it even now.


OH, yeah, and most guys would have joined after we went to the UBB style board. Before then, we used this

[Linked Image]

Thanks to Force10 for the image. This is what Frug's looked like prior to September 1999. It used the infamous Comet Cursor and the threads were the cascading type. I hated it and was so happy when we switched. Frug asked the moderators at the time, which was only me and Ken "KC23" Cook and we both voted to change. Up until then, we were mainly known for XCom, but soon after the flight sim stuff took off.

This image shows the old style board with posts in the fall of 2000. Not sure how, because I am fairly certain we made the switch in '99, but perhaps I mis-remember or perhaps the old style board was still an option?

I came to Frug's from the Combatsim boards. In the late 90's I was posting there about flight sims, mostly MiG Alley, EAW and Flanker. My MiG Alley campaign posts got Mark's attention and he asked me join the staff at Frug's and I was only too happy to do so. I did some stuff for Combatsim too, but not much, mostly EAW articles if I recall.





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#4388548 - 11/07/17 02:15 AM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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Well Hi people, I have been offline sim wise for almost 10 years. Seeing the Frugal Memorial & several folk I remember from Frugals
brought me back from the dead.

I learned enuff about flame wars to keep my opinion regarding anything other than exact sim stuff, to myself, anyway good to be back.

"Seems like it was yesterday" hell yea I will be 57 this spring 2017, and a week goes by in 2-3 days. Considering the pain that comes w/ old age
consider it a blessing. If time went by like it did when i was a kid (and life was pretty fascinating) I would go nuts.

Do to health stuff I had to quit smoking cigars, drinking booze, motorcycles cars at night to local only during day i used to
scuba dive, kung fu, taoist meditation/ magic almost.... any way cool stuff. m/c was a 1982 GS1100e w/ a full blown racing engine redline was 12,500 top speed 180 mph 1/4 mile 10 sec 135 mph.....it was fun to destroy new 600-750-900 sport bikes ,not for road racing though.....

Now my old g/f pal died 1.5 years ago, everyone i knew from growing up is dead or we don't get along so finding new people
and things to do that are fun & good for ya is not so easy as it was when I could get on/in a vehicle & drive away........

Anyway just seeing DBOND working to make this forum thread come to life was great. Reading the AARs & everyone else gave such interesting responses, it got me to
come back on line to what really appears to be a great group of simmers. What was really fun was using the way back machine to look at frugals, MiG Alley Flanker, Janes, il-2 and Falcon were all released like every few months!!! The Articles really brout me back to damn near my youth.

I had "retired" just when F4;AF was out & I never got anywhere with it. F4-1.08 i used all the time but in campaigns only dropped 500lb gp bombs or maybe a HARM that was it for ground & air to air was easy to control.
Jane f15 radar and system was easy fa18 never made it anyw where w/ me, so bottom line I got a lot of time in prop planes w/o electronics so i have plenty to relearn/learn.

Lastly, i got a new gaming system, more like a gaming desktop workstation.

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/5009403

UserBenchmarks: Game 63%, Desk 107%, Work 91%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600X - 80.2%
GPU: AMD RX 470 - 58.6%
SSD: Crucial MX300 525GB - 76.8%
SSD: Samsung 960 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 250GB - 210.7%
HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB - 104.2%
RAM: G.SKILL F4 DDR4 3200 C16 2x8GB - 102.2%
MBD: Asus PRIME X370-PRO

And https://valid.x86.fr/6hk7ga

Really lastly the MBD is pretty nice, it is missing some reset buttons for extreme over clocking etc. Mine required 1 bios update to 0812 & 3200 ram was running in seconds. Great sound chip, best system I have ever owned in my life!
The 1600x has way more cores/threads than I need, next one for Dad will have 4 core 8 thread cpu w/ built in graphics. rx 470 was left over good enuff but..........................

good to be here..............have a great day everyone.

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Welcome back blitz after your long time silent running. My condolences for your loss.

F4 BMS is awesome, and let us know if we can help in anyway.

Good to see more Frugalites.

TG, I listened to your clip and that was really good man, nice stuff thumbsup

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Hi guys,
Just stumbled upon this thread and it bought back a lot of memories. Those were happy times although keeping the site going was a huge amount of work. Thanks for all the kind words about the site it really was a labour of love and I miss those times and you guys.

Mark “Frugal” Bush

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We all miss it - it was a great website smile

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Mark!!

Wow man, great to hear from you. Hope all is well. There are many folks asking about you and wondering how you're getting on.

Yes, we all miss Frugal's World. I sure do.


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Life is good, I’m engaged to a gorgeous and wonderful woman. I’m currently writing my second book. The first one was published almost 2 years ago and was very successful. Don’t currently have a gaming rig and haven’t flown a sim since the divorce but it’s still in the blood.

Mark “Frugal” Bush

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Many congratulations.............one way to keeping a successful relationship is to have no gaming rig and also stay away from Falcon forums wink


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That great Mark, congrats to you and Mrs Frugal to be. thumbsup


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Remember the Sad Bastards Club and the IDOD.


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Wow. great thread. Mark IS still alive. great to see. Book, what book? Link, please. I really miss Frugalsworld, my mates there, and my 5 aliases. biggrin

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Well frugs was a good time... before the internet becomes so segregated, and all kinds of ppl hang out at frugs. Salute~

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Wow, The ultimate blast from the past!! Good to see Mark is still with us and I do still miss FW

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Originally Posted by Boomer
Remember the Sad Bastards Club and the IDOD.



Sure do, but somehow I was spared the IDOD even though I had 8,000 posts there. Sad Bastards though, that's me smile

Good to hear from some of the old crew


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Somebody explain what Frugals was to someone who has never been? How is it different for SimHQ? Or was it just special because there were fewer simming forums back then and it was the golden age of flight sims?


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Sure some part of the greatness was that it was part of the "beginning", not that I visited during the really early, green/black days was it? but it was huge with all kinds of sections (in my view back then) but pretty much same size as SimHQ is today.
I enjoyed the ArmA and Falcon parts in particular, DMarkwick was his name? did some kool addons for old Arma.
But I think there was more "strong personalities" among the Frugalites, many I've rarley seen since. Aragorn is one character one just cannot forget and I had some dispute with RAM22, later banned at BMS - long before me smile but I liked him. I had one guy sending e-beer to me and I shared back, it did cost a few frug-bucks though smile

Dunno, really hard to put so many years and experience into a few words so I guess it ends up with the old lame "one must have been there" smile

Edit: Oh and did I mention Mowers thong thread? Right Boomer? haha

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Originally Posted by - Ice
Somebody explain what Frugals was to someone who has never been? How is it different for SimHQ? Or was it just special because there were fewer simming forums back then and it was the golden age of flight sims?


First and foremost I think everyone has his own reasons.

So my take is

1) there were fewer simming forums back then - definitely. So frugs is effectively home to all kinds of simming folks. Unlike nowadays each game has its own forum and I find each crowd doesn't mix with the other. adding social media and game platforms such as steam and discord. But frugs was where everybody hang around and they all talked. Even within the F4 world the LP devs and BMS devs were all residing in the same place. Hah:p

2) and it was the golden age of flight sims - definitely. Community hall here has been over this many times so.. My experience was mostly Falcon4, but all the good sims were present as well. And the entire forum was just a huge knowledge base for Falcon. Plus sim hardware, LAN meet and all the other good stuffs were happening.
My stint was when flight sims commercial dev was coming to a gradual close and community modding was starting to thrive, and personally it struck a good balance.

3) moderation. Mods were there but mostly I couldn't see them. So users are usually free to post what's on his mind. I'm finding this very rare nowadayz. Probably since forum moderation is by a 3rd party, there essentially was a speech vacuum left over for common users, much like SHQ perhaps. And probably the internet buiz world had not realized the importance of forums. And it wasn't either hosted by a community modding group where public forums are disliked. Or maybe it was frugal's personal belief that it be so, I dunno don't know Frugal personally but I guess it could well be here. But this was probably the best one for me at least. Like Oden implied, the frugalites were quite.. free, and spirited, and I think it was thanks to this. Actually I think the entire internet was different back then compared to now, a lot less regulated and monetized.

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Good point on the moderation at Frugals, one "never" saw them (yeah DBond, you're such a meager personality hahaha) but I'm sure they did their thing in the background and just like here at SimHQ I find it we have stellar mods but when forums started to show up at the producers, ED in particular, I find that <self censored> kind of moderation is just plain sad.
It also breeds a special kind of members, call them brown-nose if you want, and I can't browse ED boards a single time not reacting to someone "trying to be the devs best friend" by their posting.
Why the heck do they praise the 3rd party devs for fixing stuff in a pre-release? THEY ALREADY TOOK YOUR MONEY AND ARE SUPPOSED TO FINSISH WHAT THEY PROMISED, <double self censored>

But I'm getting way off topic.

I never saw that kind of mentality at Frugs nor here.

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Originally Posted by theOden
yeah DBond, you're such a meager personality hahaha


Well the only impression I had on DBond was his FalconAF campaign AARs, a guy that enjoyed and mastered the dynamic campaign. And with a lotta forum post count. Didn't even know he was a moderator. Unthinkable nowadayz where everybody was trying to be the forum overlord or the lord's pet - but I know that ppl don't simply become bad in 10 years, but the system they reside in has changed.

And tbh I never even quite see Frugal much. Except one time where I argued with a notorious character for like 12 pages on F4AF's AIM9X flight model and frugal himself finally locked the thread. Ofc LP later did fix them and then some, and eventually a later BMS guy told me a way to hex edit the files rather easily, so it was all good!

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Well the only impression I had on DBond was his FalconAF campaign AARs, a guy that enjoyed and mastered the dynamic campaign. And with a lotta forum post count. Didn't even know he was a moderator.



What?! Hrrummph biggrin

I was the only guy with six silver stars under his name. What prestige! haha

But the fact that you didn't notice might mean we were doing a good job of it. That, or I left it to the others....


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six silver stars

I thought that came with the post count. bwah!

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But the fact that you didn't notice might mean we were doing a good job of it.

My point exactly.

But I'll be honest, nowadayz most of the flight sim/military themed game forums I find are all the conservative "respect authority" military types. The liberal "stick it to the man" ppl moved on to other places like social media, or their own websites like BMS, IL2 SAS or some such where it's ironically even worse. I'm more of an outlier where facebook just creeps me out especially after recent events and I like posting stuff on forums. I dunno if there's a middle ground somewhere... so that's that. Nevertheless things like frugs where the developer relies community management on a 3rd party probably is not to be seen again.

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Not to put too fine a point on it, but 6 stars were for staff, and members could get to 5 stars with high post counts. And I requested and was granted silver stars by the Frugmeister himself. I think it was a reward for winning the Frugals World Grand Prix Legends leagues. But my memory ain't what it used to be (and even then it was bad)


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Originally Posted by Schwalbe
probably is not to be seen again.

I'll join "Schwalbes" anytime
If I get 5 silverstars that is
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probably is not to be seen again.

I'll join "Schwalbes" anytime
If I get 5 silverstars that is
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LOL:p but... indeed. will be something worth doing someday!!

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We were one, big brawling, dysfunctional family, that when times would come, would ban together for the common good. Brothers through and through. Got me through 2 cancer operations with guys sending me well wishes and computer gear! ( I was Aragorn's proofreader for the FreeFalcon manuals. (Like herding cats. Great time!)

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Originally Posted by Boomer
Remember the Sad Bastards Club and the IDOD.



Sure do, but somehow I was spared the IDOD even though I had 8,000 posts there. Sad Bastards though, that's me smile

Good to hear from some of the old crew


As Mower, I hit the all time high post count there at over 25,000, also acquiring the dubious nick name Twinke Toes.


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Originally Posted by Falstar
I was Aragorn's proofreader for the FreeFalcon manuals.

That was a piece of art, well still is.
I remember laughing through half that book, 700 pages was it too?
But I can see people that take themself very serious didn't like it.

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Originally Posted by Falstar
(Like herding cats. Great time!)


And a better description I cannot imagine smile


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Originally Posted by Falstar
(Like herding cats. Great time!)


And a better description I cannot imagine smile


biggrin biggrin biggrin

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Well Mark is still alive and kicking. Anyone heard from BBall? He had the best pilot stories.

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Haven't heard from or of BBall in years. Hope he is doing well. Always enjoyed his stories and discussing the books we were reading.

And Ken "KC23" Cook. He wasn't with Frugals World for long as I recall, he went to the staff of a different site. But he was instrumental in the beginning of FW.

I mentioned it earlier, but the best thing I've ever done online was race Grand Prix Legends with the gang at Frugals. What a great group. I've had a great time flying Falcon 4 online, but nothing compared to the racing. I was SO in to it. I spent hundreds of hours practicing, just shaving off hundredths of a second in my Eagle. All those laps around the Nurburgring just to improve one sector by .002.

Special mention to Frank Steinbach, the best virtual race car driver I've known. I won the League title three years running, but that was only because Frank purposely chose to run in the Cooper (the slowest car in GPL) in order to give us mere mortals a chance. I've always enjoyed competition, but after high school and college I had fewer ways to find it. I played in a men's hockey league through my early 30s, but after that it was only golf. And GPL. I loved it.

Since then, sadly, there's little of this for me now. But the memories of what we did with those leagues stay with me even after all of these years. What a great crew.


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Originally Posted by DBond
There was actually one member who I wanted to perma-ban, since I just couldn't stand him. But personal feelings can't be part of it of course. Still, I so wanted to do it.


I can only apologise wink

Originally Posted by theOden
Sure some part of the greatness was that it was part of the "beginning", not that I visited during the really early, green/black days was it? but it was huge with all kinds of sections (in my view back then) but pretty much same size as SimHQ is today.
I enjoyed the ArmA and Falcon parts in particular, DMarkwick was his name? did some kool addons for old Arma.


DMarkwick = DM smile and thanks for the kind words smile I still do addons, but for a living now.

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Haha it wasn't you DM. I cannot say who it was as he may be a member here. Bygones be bygones. smile

I actually played OFP( I think it was) with you. I don't think I had tried ArmA before Frugal's went tits up. Who was the guy organizing the games? Can you name some names of the guys playing OFP/ArmA at Frugs? It's bothering me lol.


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I remember the day I got a PM from Frugal asking if I wanted to be a mod.
That was really a feeling of honor.
Still have a copy of my PMs.
I just looked through it.
JAMF, Coolhand, Goose, etc.
Good days.

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Bells be ringing. Maybe it was Goose that was organizing the OFP get-togethers.


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Didn`t you guys have lot of fun with "Flatout"?
I bought the CD, but I never got a chance to join in. biggrin

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I think some guys were running that yes. As for myself, the only racing I did with the Frug's gang was GPL (both '67 and '65 cars), NASCAR 2003 and F1 sims like F1 2002. I still recall a particularly awesome race at the A1 Ring smile

Edit: Oh, and I think we squeezed in some GTR and GTR2 as well.

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Haha it wasn't you DM. I cannot say who it was as he may be a member here. Bygones be bygones. smile

I actually played OFP( I think it was) with you. I don't think I had tried ArmA before Frugal's went tits up. Who was the guy organizing the games? Can you name some names of the guys playing OFP/ArmA at Frugs? It's bothering me lol.


So we had a small group that played together regularly, we went through a progression:
Battlefield 1942/DC mod
Ghost Recon
Rainbow Six 3
OFP
ArmA

I can remember some of the guys it was me, Panther, Coolhand, Platty, Gargoyle, Goose, Stewie, TRex, Skyfire, others who's online Frugal names I can't recall right now. I even played with ACOG on occasion wink

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Ahh, I think it was Platty. Maybe it was you. Getting old is not recommended.


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Hmmpf, getting old is not an option, DBond :p

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Holy moly would you look who they let in to this joint!

Hey Sky, great to see you. Things haven't been the same for me without having you field test RPGs before I make a decision haha.

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I'll say everything is well, that's the easy way out of such a question wink

Anyway, nice thread you have here, good memories, and you even managed to drag Frug out of his hole biggrin

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Yeah, and you too for that matter. Great to hear from you and I hope whatever you're masking isn't so much of a burden.

Now where's that Jive Ass Mother Fluffer gone to? He's about due to pop in this thread I reckon biggrin


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Hi Sky, nice to "see" you!

JAMF was seen in the Frugalsrefugees forum some year ago. Not much action there nowadays.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/frugalsrefugees/#.Uf2PF4w4WUk

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Ha yes, was aware of this forum, but never registered, actually :o

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No, not much going on there. I registered and made some posts over the years. It is appreciated, but would always struggle to recapture the magic of FW.

I wonder, if FW had never died, what it would look like today. Bunch of old farts complaining about the kids these days I imagine biggrin


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No, not much going on there. I registered and made some posts over the years. It is appreciated, but would always struggle to recapture the magic of FW.

I wonder, if FW had never died, what it would look like today. Bunch of old farts complaining about the kids these days I imagine biggrin


Or be happy they got an education.

I am a happy dad in that way. biggrin

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Yeah, well when I joined Frugals I had to use a MODEM! Both ways, uphill. Now get off my lawn.

Congrats on having smart kids Wigean, mine wears mismatched socks biggrin


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Originally Posted by DBond

Congrats on having smart kids Wigean, mine wears mismatched socks biggrin


So do mine occationally. biggrin

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I thought mine did too, but he told me he goes by thickness.

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Like it doesn't matter what color each sock is as long as they are the same gauge ? biggrin


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That's right D, gauge is the ticket...

Speaking of 2400, this new fancy gigafrick conections we have now don't even give me no audible feedback when it connects.

Don't you miss that ole connecting/handshake tone?

I'm gonna get it as a ringtone for my flip phone. That's what I want.

Hey D, I just got a VOX this week, ...man. It's got the blue.


Was GREAT to see Frugal pop in. He sounds good.

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Wow guys. Nice to see you lot again. Miss the old Frugal's world times.
And yeah, I literally registered here just to say that :P

Still pick up BMS from time to time, although I'm more into P3D these days. Was also member of FW Inc. in EVE Online back in the days, but not much left there now. Still got my characters in the game though, but kinda non-active these days; too much good flying to be done in P3D...

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Welcome to SimHQ Seraphim!


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Welcome to SimHQ Seraphim!

Thanks man!
Nice being here smile

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Thanks to Sky for pointing me to this thread. smile

First, I'm kinda glad not to have been mentioned by name (or alluded to by D Bond). biggrin

Second, I've thought over the years of what made FW so special. I really do think it was just a lightning-in-a-bottle thing. Can't be replicated. Can't even really be described. It was special. One of the early examples of what became known as "social media." smile When I see my kids deal with stuff online, I think back to some of the same kinds of things happening on FW! (BTW, my oldest daughter was born the year Falcon 4 came out. She's almost 21 now.)

Finally, I wish nothing but the best to all those fellow former Frugalites out there. Even the ones who hated me... and that I wasn't particularly fond of back in the day. smile

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I'm waiting for my delivery of eye bleach before looking at the preview. smile


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I"ve done roofing before, and was always hot. I should get Mark's book. Sounds like I'd be cooler if I learned how to do it naked.

I remember you T Rex. I won't hold it against you though
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T Rex! Holy moly, the gang's all here smile

Great to see you, hope all is well.


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Still trying to engage nose wheel steering and figure out how to use the HARM as an A-A weapon....

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I think NWS is Ctrl-E (hold)

HARM must be fired boresight in A-A mode.

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Time to fire up my Realism Patch and eRazor exe. biggrin

I wonder what ever happened to THAT dude. That guy seemed like a coding genius.

ETA:

This PDF always makes me shake my head. Hard to believe I was involved - in even a small way - with something this complicated and ... kinda crazy.
http://www.e-haf.org/FHistory/F4history.pdf

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Sic semper tyrannosauro.
#4433326 - 08/06/18 09:07 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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Hi, T Rex, good to see you, mate (even if it's in the virtual space only) . I do hope all is well.
Most of the time I frequent the BMS fora, as I'm still a dedicated Falcon 4.0 pilot in its BMS incarnate now.
Surely, I often remember good old days and the time we spent in Goose's Bar talking, arguing, replying the Trivia thread questions and... rep whoring wink
With best wishes
TommyGun (same as at Frugal's)

#4433670 - 08/09/18 03:08 AM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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Did someone mention IDOD?


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#4503000 - 01/08/20 12:16 AM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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Thread necromancy... Me... The subhuman terrorist... Never biggrin

#4504333 - 01/20/20 04:56 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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Banner! How's things mate?


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#4504760 - 01/23/20 09:12 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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All good mate, and you?

#4504763 - 01/23/20 09:24 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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Found this the other day from when i "entered" the moderators forum one time... bananadance

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#4504855 - 01/24/20 01:19 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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Haha a moderator's rep farm

The mods were shady. biggrin


Animals flee this hell, the hardest stones cannot bear it for long. Only men endure
#4504933 - 01/25/20 01:15 AM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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Your just jealous we came up with such a brilliant strategy. :p

#4505455 - 01/29/20 06:54 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: DBond]  
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I've got one where I punked Muzzy... However it's a bit too NSFW to post here.

I think he is on FB, I'll have to message him and see if he wants to bring his racecar to an event I run...

#4507179 - 02/12/20 02:49 PM Re: Frugal's World A moment in time [Re: banner001]  
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Originally Posted by banner001
Found this the other day from when i "entered" the moderators forum one time... bananadance

[Linked Image]



Good times.
Strategy was a success. biggrin

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