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#4483077 - 07/17/19 11:30 AM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Yea i have too mercedes on tablet,bit just copy this link and paste to browser this work.
First post in this thread you have sceen cockpit.

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#4483079 - 07/17/19 11:54 AM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Yeah, I get a Mercedes too, not sure what that's about.

Viper has been doing great work on he cockpit, and his textures are a great improvement. We should just carry on with that for now. Other improvements can be added later.

I might try contacting the model author and see if we could get the textures, just in case. I'm still trying with Devrim and Ricardo. Devrim said yes, but wanted me to contact Ricardo for permission, and he's not read my PM yet.

#4483081 - 07/17/19 12:08 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Originally Posted by BANITA
bit just copy this link and paste to browser this work.

still Mercedes)))

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First post in this thread you have sceen cockpit.


there's only one screen of the cockpit, but it looks good! I would like more screenshots. but on the outside of the model there is an inaccuracy, I mean the nose of the helicopter - it needs to be sharper
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#4483082 - 07/17/19 12:12 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Originally Posted by messyhead

Viper has been doing great work on he cockpit, and his textures are a great improvement. We should just carry on with that for now. Other improvements can be added later.
Agreed

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I might try contacting the model author and see if we could get the textures, just in case. I'm still trying with Devrim and Ricardo. Devrim said yes, but wanted me to contact Ricardo for permission, and he's not read my PM yet.
I wrote to Flaperon, just in case!))

#4483083 - 07/17/19 12:16 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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I think you must disable ublock or adblock wink
Ok all clear,without doubts Viper cockpit is great. Increase texture res also doing work. We will see what will be.

#4483088 - 07/17/19 12:44 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: BANITA]  
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Originally Posted by BANITA
I think you must disable ublock or adblock wink

nothing has changed!
put the link again?

#4483745 - 07/22/19 06:33 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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I don't know if I'm the last to figure this out, but I just worked out how to change it so the pilot can look down more. In the KA50 cockpit, I was getting annoyed that I couldn't look down to the controls. But I just worked out it's set in the eech.ini file.

If you change the last number in this line, it lets you look down more. I've now got it set to 40, which is pretty much straight down. Most cockpits are set to -5, which doesn't allow much movement. Before the next release, I'll probably check them all, and tweak it.

I also found you can use CTRL ~ key to change the pitch, and it saves it to the eech.ini file.

ka50_pilot=0.000,0.000,0.000,40.000 # wideview pilot position


So now I can look down to the left and right, and see more of the cockpit.

#4484263 - 07/26/19 10:09 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Hello guys,

willl be back soon. Had a lot of trouble the last weeks sigh .

Cheers Viper


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#4484389 - 07/28/19 06:21 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Just my opinion, but we have a pretty nice Ka-50, especially after we complete the upgrades that are currently underway. Wouldn't it make more sense to pick a chopper that we don't have in the game currently if you're going to spend money on it? Maybe an Mi-35 perhaps? Or an old Huey? Maybe an EC-665 Eurocopter Tiger? The Gazelle is pretty popular too. Just a thought.


I think Javelin is right here. Let's finish the KA-50 and do some other helos. The KA-50 never played a role in active service, only a few missions in the Chechen war. It was mostly used as a test platform for new systems.

I think we should make the MI-28N and the new version of the KA-52, which are in active service. Maybe a MI-35 is also an interesting russian helo. The KA-50 is already in DCS and in such a detail, we will never be able to do, but the other helos aren't very likely to see in DCS.

OK. we could only guess how there weapon systems and avionics are working, but this was the case in most simulations during the 90's (eg. Janes, Microprose etc.) This is namely the great backdrop of all kind of super realistic simulations, like DCS, BMS etc. They simply can not make actual attack-helicopters or fighters, cause they want it hyper-realistic and this isn't possible in case of military secrets.

I think a good "how it could be in real life"-model is better and more interesting, as a hyper-realistic attack-helo no one is really interested in (like eg. a Gazelle biggrin ). I'm neither an attack helicopter pilot nor a fighter jet pilot who wants to make his training sessions at home on his computer, I'm just a guy who loves military aircraft and wanted to get an idea of how it could be to be a pilot. It should be realistic of course, but not in a totally hyped way.

That's only my two cents to this subject wink

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#4484391 - 07/28/19 07:25 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Sczkien has a ready made full Eurocopter tiger cockpit. And ext model.Maybe release someday....

#4484407 - 07/28/19 10:52 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Soczkein has a Eurocopter Tiger cockpit? That would be nice to get a hold of. I've been digging around looking for a 3D model for that one. I did find one in the X-Plane archives, it has a GNU public license which means we can use it for non-commercial purposes. It can be loaded into Blender using a plugin, then re-saved in another format for editing. I have no idea how hard adapting it would be though, I've never tried it. It may have too many triangles in it, at first glance. Soczkein's would be preferable.

I'm busy learning what pieces need to be in place to make a new aircraft work. There are a lot more pieces than I realized, Collision NullObjects are just one item. I see a bunch more NullObjects that are weapons related, then the aircraft-database would need entries, along with a set of weapons loadouts in another file, you need an Undercarriage data file, a dyn dynamics file, and the list of items goes on and on. I'll write all of it up once I actually get through the process of getting one working all the way. I'm keeping detailed notes. It's going to take me a while to do it, so don't expect anything anytime soon.

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#4484409 - 07/28/19 11:16 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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cant find old links, but its probably him work.
https://3dmdb.com/en/3d-model/EC-665-Eurocopter-Tiger-Cockpit/196211/

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#4484420 - 07/29/19 02:01 AM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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I see zillions of triangles... more than EECH can manage. Nice 3D model, though. Reasonably priced too.

#4484632 - 07/31/19 10:56 AM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Btw today out new blender,completely new ui. Looks great worth try. [Linked Image]

#4484637 - 07/31/19 12:27 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Yes I've also seen the new version of Blender, but it doesn't run on my laptop. The minimum is Open GL 3.0 and the Iaptops graphics card only support up to Open GL 2.2.

The UI does really look better now.


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#4484663 - 07/31/19 05:18 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Ok I'm now back on the KA-50. Finished a lot of detail work in the cockpit and also improving the external model.

I still like to go with my external version but everyone can choose which model he prefers. I like the one with the two sensors at the nose, so I will still use this one biggrin.

If I'm ready, I will upload the complete work including the external model, then I will switch back to the MI-28 and work further at the new cockpit.


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#4484689 - 07/31/19 10:00 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Originally Posted by Viper1970
The KA-50 never played a role in active service, only a few missions in the Chechen war. It was mostly used as a test platform for new systems.
In fact, Comanche did not participate in the war at all! smile but in the game it is very good! (btw, what about the option with a single-barreled 30mm gun?)

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Maybe a MI-35 is also an interesting russian helo.

not a good idea - Russia abandons Mi-35 and goes back to the model with 6 weapons pylons and retractable landing gear!
a better look at the Super hind
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or the Mi-24P

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The KA-50 is already in DCS and in such a detail, we will never be able to do, but the other helos aren't very likely to see in DCS.

Yes, the Ka-50 in the DCS is well done, but there is no main thing - a dynamic war. That's why I came here from DCS.

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I think a good "how it could be in real life"-model is better and more interesting, as a hyper-realistic attack-helo no one is really interested in (like eg. a Gazelle biggrin ). I'm neither an attack helicopter pilot nor a fighter jet pilot who wants to make his training sessions at home on his computer, I'm just a guy who loves military aircraft and wanted to get an idea of how it could be to be a pilot. It should be realistic of course, but not in a totally hyped way.

That's only my two cents to this subject wink
I totally agree! I do not need a Hyper-realistic simulation , EECH is a simulator similar to Strike Fighters and I like it!

#4484690 - 07/31/19 10:08 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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Finished for today biggrin

Reworked some colors of the 3D buttons, added the armor-plates left and right to the cockpit windows and added a texture to the window-frames and the armor-plates.

Getting this textures fitted, was a real nightmare.

Tomorrow I will add some 3D buttons and coolies to the collective and will take a look if I could use some of my 3D gauge-frames I made for the MI-28, also in the KA50 cockpit.

For today the work is done goodnight yep


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#4484692 - 07/31/19 10:21 PM Re: KA-50 AIO Reloaded [Re: Viper1970]  
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not a good idea - Russia abandons Mi-35 and goes back to the model with 6 weapons pylons and retractable landing gear!
a better look at the Super hind


Yes, the retractable gear and the weapon-pylons really look better. I think I will make this model if I made the MI-28 and the new KA-52. I think they will still use the new cockpit avionics, they made for the MI-35.

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I totally agree! I do not need a Hyper-realistic simulation , EECH is a simulator similar to Strike Fighters and I like it!


Strike Fighters Project 1 and 2 are an absolute must have for every aircraft fan. No other simulator offers such an endless amount of user made addon-aircraft.

Combat-Ace is the place to go for SFP1 and SFP2 addons. Sadly they want a little fee if you are going to download more then ten downloads a day or so, but its really worth it.
I have tons of SFP1-2 addon planes on my harddrives. There are so many types of aircraft, you never will see in any other simulator. The realism isn't really bad, the flight model feels realistic and the weapon systems are simple but good. Only modern weapons, after the 80's lack a bit in realism, but its ok overall.


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