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#4379102 - 09/12/17 08:38 AM Is WOFF finally dead?  
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No new patch or content for almost a year.
Practically a non-existent modding community.
This forum like a grave yard with mostly OT content.

Is it finally really over?
And yes, yes I get the reasons but I deal in results.
Too bad for the greatest flight sim ever to end like this.

#4379104 - 09/12/17 08:52 AM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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lol, no. There's a brand new product on the way. Woff set the standard for ww1 sims and new people take it up every week. Following the release of WotR there should be a renewed interest in WoFF also. These products will be around for the next 10 years or so.


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#4379108 - 09/12/17 10:04 AM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Originally Posted by DukeIronHand

... Practically a non-existent modding community.
This forum like a grave yard with mostly OT content.
...

Are you kidding? mad

#4379109 - 09/12/17 10:13 AM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Dramatic post aside ...

In answer to your question

The facts:

1) The last WOFF patch was in April 2017, I make that just five months ago - not even half a year.

2) We released a free download "New Albatros D.III OAW skins pack" for WOFF Ultimate Edition by James ‘OvS’ on 20th June 2017 (less than 3 months ago - see the Store page to download)

3) We have been discussing the next patch internally in the last few days and with a few contributors. We intend to do one soon.

4) We publicly announced when starting WOTR that we had not finished with WOFF and that once WOTR is released we hope to transfer any new cool stuff to WOFF.
So I'll say that again here.

5) It is still our intention to do more Add-ons for WOFF and have been discussing content recently internally.

Not bad for team of 2 people working on a new product.

Your post intended or not, is in total error and could also stop people buying and supporting us, which as you know we need to help us continue. So these posts do nothing except create myth and affect sales.

Matt has it right - thanks for posting that Matt.



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#4379110 - 09/12/17 10:17 AM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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One other thing, even IF we had stopped development on WOFF it also does make it a "dead" product or undesirable, it's still a fantastic WW1 sim with unequalled features.


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#4379113 - 09/12/17 10:32 AM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Originally Posted by DukeIronHand
No new patch or content for almost a year.
Practically a non-existent modding community.
This forum like a grave yard with mostly OT content.

Is it finally really over?
And yes, yes I get the reasons but I deal in results.
Too bad for the greatest flight sim ever to end like this.


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#4379114 - 09/12/17 10:36 AM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Hey Duke, good to see you. I must disagree with you though on WOFF, it is far from expired. It has been quieter around the forums but that may be due in part to summer and folks have other things going on. I have been absent for a while due to family matters and work but I am still active in the modding. And to your comment about the modding, keep in mind that most of the low hanging fruit has been picked in terms of the mods so what is now left tends to be incredibly time-consuming and tedious to build. I personally have four different mods in various stages of build, each of which will gobble up hundreds of hours of my time to complete, which I am hoping to be able to do once winter settles upon us. There is also still an ongoing DID campaign and new screenshots and WOFF artwork being posted regularly. And we've just brought in another new member to the BOC.

So don't proclaim the old girl gone just yet my friend.

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#4379117 - 09/12/17 11:05 AM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Yes, yes of course. Oh well.

I looked at the date of the 4.15 patch thread start (October 2016) and see it was updated in April 2017. I will own that error.

I did forget about the OvS Skin Pack from last summer. I thought of this as more associated with OvS and not OBD.

I am not privy to your "internal discussions."

And yes I remember when it was said WOFF is not forgotten whenever WOTR was released. But, believe it or not, I hear a lot of things on the internet.

Sorry for the "drama."
If you really feel this thread is bad for sales feel free to delete it.

#4379121 - 09/12/17 11:14 AM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Duke, I for one don't see why the thread should be deleted, you were voicing an opinion and a concern. Can't speak for others here but I wasn't offended by it, and you are correct about there not being much in the way of WOFF updates coming from the devs. But then that is owing to their latest WWII project which, I am hoping, will result in not only a great WWII flight sim but also a fair amount of new goodies being ported over into WOFF because of it.

Now then, if you wouldn't mind, how about you hop over to the flying room thread and show us some shots of where you like to work your own WOFF magic from. I'd certainly like to see your digs. smile2

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#4379123 - 09/12/17 11:16 AM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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We are not "the internet" we are OBD smile

As the WOFF team James and myself worked together - with his feedback I improved the Albatros 3d models to allow him to make some of the new changes in the skins.
He then had a lot of work to make them and took some time to complete of course, but stunning work.

Of course I know you are not privy, but best not to assume - if it's dead we'll say so (unless we are too).

Sometimes things are quiet because people are very busy working 100s and 1000s of hours to make something (with their head down!). We'll get there,



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#4379126 - 09/12/17 11:28 AM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Sounds great Pol. Sorry for the doubts. Old age does that. When you are 20 you can wait forever. As you get older time gets more precious and waiting for anything is torture.
Carry on gentlemen! Guess I'll see you over the front.

And Lou, my "WOFF Command Center and Cockpit" is currently relegated to a kitchen corner while a "pre-retirement" house renovation project has begun. All my WW1 paraphernalia is boxed up and in the basement but my computer is still out and useable. Hopefully I'll live long enough to see it completed!

#4379133 - 09/12/17 12:23 PM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Ah yes, the pre-retirement house projects, I have a few of those too Duke as I am hanging it up myself a year from this November. So we'll give you this one, but once you have things put back together we want pics of your cockpit. smile2

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#4379135 - 09/12/17 12:34 PM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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There are also those of us who've been around and following WOFF for years but usually don't speak up on the forum. I visit almost daily but rarely post!


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#4379137 - 09/12/17 12:53 PM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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There will also be a new Rick Rawlings challenge in the not too distant future, for those who go in for such foolishness. That should generate some "below the line" reading for a few weeks, anyway... salute


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#4379138 - 09/12/17 12:55 PM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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#4379144 - 09/12/17 01:21 PM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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WOOO HOOO! Another one of your challenges Rick, that will be super. Give me some advanced notice and I can get the gongs ready for it.

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#4379234 - 09/12/17 05:28 PM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Well, this thread made developers and modders show their cards and post future or inminent releases, so it´s been worth it;)

#4379236 - 09/12/17 05:43 PM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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Not offended by the thread in any way either... it was a valid question in my book smile
And yes, I tend to visit daily too, have a quick scan of the news and then skeedaddle!!!
Just been flying a few quick battles actually

Bung Ho chaps!

#4379268 - 09/12/17 09:42 PM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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I do appreciate your frustration, Duke. It has been fairly quiet around here. If you haven't already done so, I encourage you to read some of the many fine stories posted in the Reports from the Front and DiD Centenary Challenge threads. There is some real talent there.


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#4379310 - 09/13/17 02:13 AM Re: Is WOFF finally dead? [Re: DukeIronHand]  
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The modding is really terrific..IMHO.
Between JJJ's ME and Buckeye Bob's Cloud Mod and OvS skins and I apologize for missing other mods, things are pretty vibrant at the moment.

Perhaps like some others, I don't post a lot, but visit and read the forum posts daily.

There is not, and probably never will be another WW1 sim like WOFF.

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