Hey All,

If you where looking to build the ultimate rig today you may want to hold out for a little while.. Why you ask well the new i7-i9 X series Processors are coming Q2-17 will be here on 6-26-2017..


Intel X Series CPU's

I may jump ship and get one of these monsters when they come to market. I would like to get the i7 7800X or the i9 7900X.. these things look like what I wanted when looking for the 7th gen Processors a few months back..

Seems the 44 P:CI lane is the 9900x which is very spendy.. I will probally be getting the 7800x


Link to CPU on NewEgg

One question : WHY?

Is your current CPU being overtaxed by current games? Are you doing SOMETHING ELSE aside from gaming that warrants such a CPU?

My thoughts exactly. Paying premium prices for *maybe* ~10-20% performance increase makes no sense to me; especially when most games\programs don't even use current hardware to it's full potential.

Jay and Linus sum it up pretty well:

Indeed. I class this along the same lines as 32GB or 64GB RAM, dual-/triple-/quad-SLI, and M.2 NVMe drives on RAID. Super cool if you have the money to burn, but otherwise just for bragging rights.

Why, well that is simple because I can and I was going to give my current PC to my Dad.. I was looking into Ryzen and while they seem to have more cores they are still not as good performing as the intel Kaby lakes.. I am sure the AMD's will get better intime..


while these are pretty spendy they are the best we have.. Maybe Koffee lake coming out will be good but the X series is the extreme version right now.. if you wanted to build the best performing system you can get well the X series is it.. This was aimed mostly at people who wanted to build a new system.

I dont get all the hate for intel..

Oh, don't get me wrong, dude. No hate for Intel at all. Just confusion and frustration regarding their decisions on these level of "enthusiast" products.

Like... £900 for the i9 7900X, £530 for the i7 7820X, of £340 for the i7 7800X... compared to £320 for the i7 7700K. Comparing the 7800X and 7700K... two more cores, 4 threads, -0.70GHz drop in base freq, -0.50 drop in max turbo freq, an extra 0.25MB cache, and +49TDP. No built-in graphics as well. Motherboards start at around £200 for X299 and £100 for Z270. What exactly are you getting for that extra money?

If you have money to blow on a 7900X, X299 mobo, 32GB RAM, and 3-way SLI 1080Ti, then go ahead! Obviously, money is not an issue there and any logic along "value for money" or "most bang for your buck" will not matter. That would indeed be an ultimate rig!! Stick in a 2TB Samsung 960 M.2 NVMe drive for games, a 500GB Samsung 960 M.2 NVMe drive for OS and programs, and a 4TB Samsung850 EVO SATA SSD for general storage as well!

I don't hate Intel, I was simply pointing out that paying premium for a possible performance increase just doesn't make sense.

I just went from an AMD FX to an i5 4670k and it blasts thru every game I've thrown at it, I don't see the need for anyone to buy the absolute latest, most expensive chipset right now (for gaming anyways).

Er, so that you get 202fps instead of just 198?


Modern games are more GPU-hungry than CPU anyway...

I'm an Intel man through and through (even was on their payroll in another life), but I agree that the price/performance ratio and the locked features seem not only like a bad business move, but also a show of desperation to try to match AMD's offer.

However, i do not think multithreading will provide any improvement for current games, therefore, count me uninterested in both counts.

Intel all the way here since I started building my own. There are always folks willing to pay a premium for the latest/greatest hardware.

If you can afford it, go for it IMO.

Well I dont like the idea of their enthusiast line seems to be geared for people with disposable incomes as well.. I dont like this idea at all but since it is there I guess it is here to stay.. I dont think If I alone make a complaint about the pricing of this hardware they would not even blink and eye nor care..

I like their products just dont like the pricing.. Maybe some better AMD chips at a cheaper price will have an effect on intels decision making of their pricing.. I priced the Set I would want to get and it was about 1000USD seems to much for me so I probally will not be getting it.. I am not one of the persons with disposable incomes

You can always vote with your wallet, Neph!
Don't get me wrong.... if money was no object, I would be buying crazy stuff just 'coz and to be honest, I go a little bit this way.... when I got the 980Ti, I knew full well that I could've gone with a lower-tier card but I wanted the best I could afford and not worry about "low GPU power" for a good few years. However, this decision was made with "value for money" first and then "can I justify the extra expense" second. Luckily, it was "yes" on both counts, but I could not say the same for this enthusiast line.

It's the same thing with RAM kits... I can answer "yes" on both counts for a 16GB DDR4 kit, but not for a 32GB kit.


What do you have now? Seems like there's no reason to look beyond the 7700K or 7600K for games and even for "content creators."

If you need the extra stuff, then you know you need it and there's no way around it. What was that you were doing on your PC that stopped you from using SSDs? Maybe build an el-cheapo PC for that. I can honestly and confidently say that buying an SSD for your OS and games will give you much, much, MUCH better and **VISIBLE** results compared to going from a 7700K to any X-series chip. The "bang for your buck," especially when compared to any X-chip, is through the roof!

Yes I am voting with my wallet but will it be heard??

I now have a very limited income but I get buy so I am not gonna complain

What I do with my PC was shader hunt using 3D Migoto for fixing 3D Vision games.. IT did not like having the SSD as my OS drive because of the hazrd reboots that often happen with tha Program..

Yes I would love to have another PC to do that will but it falls back on the limited income I can not afford to get and maintain 2 PC's

I will get by with what I have and am greatful for what I have. I was just thinking the new X series where something they where not at least in the PCI/e lanes department.. kinda sucks what intel has decided to ddo with that and only offer it on their most expensive CPU's..

Yes it will. The market for bleeding-edge chips such as the 7700K is small, at least compared to something like the 7600K. I suspect the market for the X-series chips would be even smaller.... and maybe that's why they're priced so much higher. If they don't hear your vote against the X-series pricing, they will at least hear your vote for the 7700K/7600K stuff.


Can you not install the program on a HDD but have the OS on an SSD? Have you considered a dual-boot system where one OS is on an SSD and another is on a HDD?

There's an easy solution then........answer 'Yes' twice when entertaining the 16GB DDR4 kit.

If it's value for money, then get value for money twice!..........you're effectively SAVING money (that's the bit the missus needs to know anyway!)

True! What I need to do now is find a kit that's 50% off and buy TWO of them to get both for FREE!!

Well it will not matter as it will Crash the entire PC sp it will not matter which drive Migoto is on

I would love to put a dual boot on and have Windows 7 on this PC but I tried getting Win 7 to work it just does not.

Dual boot seems to be the best solution for you. A 1TB or 500GB (or however much space you need) HDD for your OS and Migoto, then an SSD or two for your other OS and games. What is your current PC specs? There should be no reason why dual boot would not work for you.

Win 7 does not work with Kaby Lake I tried it.. Migoto is a Modding Program to fix 3D stuff..