#4363733 - 06/13/17 10:14 PM
Re: DCS F18
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So..... Thrustmaster is only doing Stick mod for F/A-18 or what? Well, the F-18 throttle isn't too different from the current WH throttle and I don't see why they'd need to re-design the stick base... Less R&D and prototyping, faster out the door, less development costs, more profit... and the added advantage of keeping the drooling/rabid fanboys at bay! Speaking of early access, any word about carrier ops??
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#4363737 - 06/13/17 10:33 PM
Re: DCS F18
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Carrier Ops demo looks like it's going to be a day 2 thing (got that from a Youtube video post where they noted Wag's said to come back tomorrow).
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#4363739 - 06/13/17 10:34 PM
Re: DCS F18
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However some feature like JHMCS will be implemented after EA release(dev confirmed).
so 3-4 years then....
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#4363742 - 06/13/17 10:47 PM
Re: DCS F18
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So..... Thrustmaster is only doing Stick mod for F/A-18 or what? Well, the F-18 throttle isn't too different from the current WH throttle and I don't see why they'd need to re-design the stick base... Less R&D and prototyping, faster out the door, less development costs, more profit... and the added advantage of keeping the drooling/rabid fanboys at bay! Speaking of early access, any word about carrier ops?? that missing rotary radar control, specially considered that there is an axis unused, is/was outrageous. I was really hoping for an F-18 throttle.... what is the point of the stick only when there are way better joystick out there.
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#4363747 - 06/13/17 11:21 PM
Re: DCS F18
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...Very nice and I hope it comes out soon!! I also hope they will sell a "grip-only" version for those who already have a WH setup. Not much as far as the Hornet video goes... I somehow expected a more "action" test sequence, not just a free flight with no other aircraft. Heck if it flew formation with another Hornet, that would've been so much more cooler. I was also expecting to see carrier ops... again, just because HORNET. Nevertheless, I'm keeping my fingers crossed! Whoohooo!! Thanks for the link Ice. I too hope for a grip-only option. Would've liked to have seen more Hornet action, as well, but it's still early. Years ago, when I attended IITSEC in Orlando, Wags demoed a whole lot more of the A-10 using CH Products' A-10 HOTAS (whicn was never released commercially). Maybe he'll show some of the Hornet's features in the coming days. I noticed none of the cockpits were equipped with the Hornet grip, which causes me to speculate that it is not quite ready for consumption. I'm guessing more than "two weeks" before we can enjoy both products. --T
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#4363773 - 06/14/17 04:08 AM
Re: DCS F18
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So..... Thrustmaster is only doing Stick mod for F/A-18 or what? Well, the F-18 throttle isn't too different from the current WH throttle and I don't see why they'd need to re-design the stick base... Less R&D and prototyping, faster out the door, less development costs, more profit... and the added advantage of keeping the drooling/rabid fanboys at bay! Speaking of early access, any word about carrier ops?? that missing rotary radar control, specially considered that there is an axis unused, is/was outrageous. I was really hoping for an F-18 throttle.... what is the point of the stick only when there are way better joystick out there. Agree the rotary for the radar control would be great, in the mean time I'll continue to use the WH's slider (not the same but does the job)
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#4363800 - 06/14/17 08:47 AM
Re: DCS F18
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Apparently from the pictures TM did add an extra rotary switch that actually doesn't exist in the real grip....the reason is quite obvious.....They did realize that an F18 is not an A-10 so rapid radar control ( without asking the pilot to take the hands off the controls) is a must since it's a fighter. Since they just ignored that switch on the original Warthog (yeah i get it, they wanted to keep it original) now that decision is slashing back to them. I need to see how commands are distributed between stick and throttle to better understand that if the result is amazing, good or awful. One thing i know for sure is that the F-18 was originally designed to have the radar control on the throttle. I hope that TM design decision does not contrast with Boeing original decision, thus having situation where you should proceed with multiple controls input but they are all done with the same hand just because of TM.
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#4363804 - 06/14/17 09:53 AM
Re: DCS F18
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LINK not sure if this is the same as the Facebook page video posted earlier
Dont think of it as being vastly outnumbered ... but just having a large target selection.
The only thing more accurate than incoming fire, is incoming friendly fire
Tracers work BOTH ways...
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#4363806 - 06/14/17 10:09 AM
Re: DCS F18
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So..... Thrustmaster is only doing Stick mod for F/A-18 or what? Well, the F-18 throttle isn't too different from the current WH throttle and I don't see why they'd need to re-design the stick base... Less R&D and prototyping, faster out the door, less development costs, more profit... and the added advantage of keeping the drooling/rabid fanboys at bay! Speaking of early access, any word about carrier ops?? It seems they are going to showoff some carrier things tommorow As for throttle like other said, it is lacking radar antenna elevation rotary the only point that prevents me from buying it so Im kind of disappointed aobut not having 18C throttle..
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#4363876 - 06/14/17 01:51 PM
Re: DCS F18
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I'm flying the F-16 on an A-10 throttle... I'm not that bothered about the loss of a rotary. Having said that, the WH throttle has more buttons than the Viper's throttle but it looks like the Hornet would need all the WH throttle buttons and then more! Will need to see how things pan out, but would not mind having to buy a Hornet throttle later on if one becomes available. Then again, it'll depend on how long the DCS module can hold my interest.
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#4363884 - 06/14/17 02:09 PM
Re: DCS F18
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Then again, it'll depend on how long the DCS module can hold my interest. Each of my modules landed at aboot 2 weeks except the A-10C which kept going some 4 weeks maybe. Was it worth it? Can't say "hell yeah" sadly, far from. DCS is, by far, the most expensive sim I ever payed for per played hour. Flew BMS the other night and my Swedish wingman and I noticed, that first in a lifetime, we have a fully featured SAAB37 in a simulator and we still go BMS for the evening. Without pointing out specific reasons we both realized this was the worst grade DCS ever could get from Swedish customers. Edit: With above in my back pocket I will not buy DCS Hornet day 1. Not even close.
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#4363911 - 06/14/17 04:05 PM
Re: DCS F18
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Like I said, I did have a lot of fun with DCS A10C and even with the A10A in FC3 before that. Even though I am very critical of ED after BS2, the A10C is an excellent module and only suffers because of the "world" it is flying in. I've got my fingers crossed for the Hornet and the Tomcat, and even if it's just to learn the systems of these aircraft, I would most probably be buying both modules on Day 1... or close enough to Day 1 I've said it again and again, DCS is more of an airframe simulator than a combat flight simulator.... and the Hornet and Tomcat are two airframes I don't mind spending time on..... provided ED (and Heatblur) manages to do these modules properly. Give me A10C-level fidelity and carrier ops and I won't mind the sterile "world" for a good while.
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#4363920 - 06/14/17 04:58 PM
Re: DCS F18
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+1 what Ice said
I've spent a lot of time trying to make FSX/P3D my Carrier Ops sim. F4/FA18/F14 and since i went to VR only its been rough. DCS + Carrier Ops (if they way it runs NTTR and Normandy on my 5 year old system ill be happy.
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#4363983 - 06/14/17 10:12 PM
Re: DCS F18
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I,m really surprised that by now, there is next to none videos about it....
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#4364021 - 06/15/17 01:19 AM
Re: DCS F18
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Exodus
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