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#4350223 - 04/10/17 02:59 PM Thor: Ragnarok  
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I always thought I leaned more towards DC characters, but I have to admit that Marvel does know how to sell their movies a whole lot better than DC.



They seem to have combined a few stories with Ragnarok..added Hulk Planet elements too. Wondering if Beta Ray Bill may show up. Love the look of Hella.

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#4350225 - 04/10/17 03:02 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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I'll be seeing it in the theater. I enjoyed the previous 2 Thor films well enough.


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#4350256 - 04/10/17 04:35 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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It's a friend from work! - Amazing how they manage to make the most mundane of lines work so well.

Meanwhile, TBH every non-Nolan DC film has largely tripped over its own feet just doing the basics.



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#4350273 - 04/10/17 05:23 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Holy crap, that looks bad ass!


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#4350274 - 04/10/17 05:24 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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It's nice seeing Jeff Goldblum in something again. I haven't seen him since "The Grand Budapest Hotel".


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#4350276 - 04/10/17 05:28 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Well, well, well. An actual story. Cool

#4350286 - 04/10/17 06:19 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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#4350303 - 04/10/17 06:56 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Yes, that trailer makes me want to see that.


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#4350311 - 04/10/17 07:22 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
It's nice seeing Jeff Goldblum in something again. I haven't seen him since "The Grand Budapest Hotel".



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#4350368 - 04/11/17 01:05 AM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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wow. looks awesome. and it looks like the Executioner gets to rock his M-16s...

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#4350396 - 04/11/17 09:36 AM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Oh, ffs. Space Gladiator is more like it.


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#4370599 - 07/23/17 03:55 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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It seems that whatever potion Marvel used to spice up Guardians of the Galaxy, they want to use now for all their properties. Love the Hela shots on the trailer -


#4370809 - 07/24/17 10:37 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Originally Posted by Bib4Tuna





They seem to have combined a few stories with Ragnarok..added Hulk Planet elements too. Wondering if Beta Ray Bill may show up. Love the look of Hella.

he is at the very begining when the ship goes away from the camera he is int he building monument in the background,you can also see, man thing,ares and other characters from the hulk sculpted there. a nice nod from taika,they were problably gladiators once.

#4370814 - 07/24/17 11:05 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Immermann]  
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Originally Posted by Immermann
Oh, ffs. Space Gladiator is more like it.


Its pulled from planet hulk (ish)


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#4370833 - 07/25/17 01:55 AM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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I think the main difference between the Marvel films and the DC films is that the writers from Marvel seem to actually like writing, the characters they're writing, and don't seem like they're doing it under protest or as some horrible job to get through in order to get a paycheck.

I get it - Batman is all angst and a basic inability to get over one traumatic event as a seven year old, so he runs around beating people up. Dark stuff. Plot? "I'm Batman." Everything is focused on him and his pain, meaning the story can't drive the film. Hell, Gotham is forbidden from having a bright, sunny day on account of Bruce Wayne mourning for his parents. And if the Sun isn't allowed to shine, well, we can't have well lit interiors, can we?

He's completely unhinged the DC universe to where everything must be sepia or black. Red? Yes, they can have red, so long as it's deep blood red. Even in The Watchmen bright yellow outfits must be lit and filtered until they turn into a dirty mustard.

Marvel built a world and has its characters do things in it - they're participants, not the center of existence. So they can have some fun, or at least not be total tools all the time. They're relate able. It also means that story can drive the films as much as the characters.



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#4370845 - 07/25/17 05:06 AM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Dart]  
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Originally Posted by Dart
I think the main difference between the Marvel films and the DC films is that the writers from Marvel seem to actually like writing, the characters they're writing, and don't seem like they're doing it under protest or as some horrible job to get through in order to get a paycheck.

I get it - Batman is all angst and a basic inability to get over one traumatic event as a seven year old, so he runs around beating people up. Dark stuff. Plot? "I'm Batman." Everything is focused on him and his pain, meaning the story can't drive the film. Hell, Gotham is forbidden from having a bright, sunny day on account of Bruce Wayne mourning for his parents. And if the Sun isn't allowed to shine, well, we can't have well lit interiors, can we?

He's completely unhinged the DC universe to where everything must be sepia or black. Red? Yes, they can have red, so long as it's deep blood red. Even in The Watchmen bright yellow outfits must be lit and filtered until they turn into a dirty mustard.

Marvel built a world and has its characters do things in it - they're participants, not the center of existence. So they can have some fun, or at least not be total tools all the time. They're relate able. It also means that story can drive the films as much as the characters.




You just put very good words on to something I've felt, but never even verbally articulated to myself there. I have no speculation about your first paragraph, but you NAILED the next three.

#4370854 - 07/25/17 06:03 AM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Growing up, I hardly ever read comics. Sometimes, I'd go to a friend's house who had some, and I'd read through a few, and always felt they were just too over-dramatic, and very soap-opera-ish ("he's a good guy, now he's a bad guy, now he's a good guy again!") Combining different comics characters always seemed childish ("Who would win in a fight, the Hulk or Iron Man?" "Iron Man!" "Huh-uh, the Hulk!" "Huh-uh, Iron Man!"). After seeing that stuff a bit, I just gave up on them.

When I saw the first X-Men film, going out with some friends and not really knowing what to expect, I was impressed. A good story with good characters and action. I didn't bother with Batman Begins until it was on cable, and I was pleasantly surprised at how well it was made, and liked it a lot. Iron Man came out and I liked that too, and The Dark Knight was classic. The second X-Men film was pretty good too. The first Spider-Man movie was good, the second was OK.

I began to realize that after a couple of movies, they started getting back into the old comic book tropes, and so far, Marvel has gone the furthest, with all the super heroes showing up in everyone else's movies, and of course the Avengers movies. Obviously DC is headed in the same direction with the Justice League movies, too. When I watched the preview for Ragnarok, it was like reading the comics at my friend's house all over again, and reminded me of why I never liked comic books. I guess I just like movies based on comic books when they are least like the comic books themselves.


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#4370859 - 07/25/17 11:13 AM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Some movies that I enjoyed I had no clue they were based on a comic book at the time like "Men In Black" and "Blade". For me, those are two great examples of comic book adaptations where the movie itself was not "comic-booky".

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#4370941 - 07/25/17 06:40 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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The problem with Marvel is that EVERYONE has some kind of power. The standard human seems like the minority. Mutants, Inhumans, aliens, clones...not many normal people. The problem with the movies is that they get away from the characters people like more and more. Really couldn't care less about Ant Man, Falcon, a replacement Capt America...whatever.
Their best offerings right now are on tv. The Daredevil related shows, Agents of SHIELD, upcoming Inhumans. Kind of lost interest in seeing the movies at the theater now.

DC...fewer heroes. Still have the clone thing, aliens etc, but it doesn't seem as populated with people with abilities. I love that some make their own. Batman (like Iron Man) steps up. In the DC universe, he was basically the first super hero. He's been at it presumably for many years by the time Man of Steel takes place, even losing a Robin in the process. He and Iron Man earned what they have though, they wouldn't be where they are if they weren't SMART first. I like that. I'm loving the DC movies and their darker tone. Marvel's movies are still playing off of the invasion in Avengers...in the movies, the DD shows, the broadcast tv shows. MOVE ON! DC is putting a lot on the line every time, justifying the need for their super heroes.

The cities are certainly distinct. They're supposed to be. Star City on Arrow is Gotham-like (intentionally), Flash's Central City is very different, bright and colorful. Is that really so unrealistic?
Does Manhattan look like San Francisco?
Does Boston look like Miami?
Does Seattle look like Austin?
Does any other city look like Vegas?

Nope. They all look different, have different weather, architecture, mood. The heroes match the tone of the city. Batman in Metropolis? He wouldn't care, he thrives on crime that doesn't flourish elsewhere, not world ending villains.
The Gotham tv show would seem a little silly in a bright, colorful city like Orlando. LOL

In print, they're all guilty of getting too complex with alternate universes, killing off and bringing back characters, recasting a hero with a different person. Flash is too convoluted with several people playing him over the decades, Wolverine is now replaced by a little girl. Then they have a shake up in administration at DC or Marvel, the new head scraps the entire universe and they reboot it all. I guess you have to in order to keep things going for 70 years in some cases.


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#4370944 - 07/25/17 06:47 PM Re: Thor: Ragnarok [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Great post Raw!! I also like the darker tone of the DC movies.


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