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#4349816 - 04/08/17 01:13 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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the price premium people pay for FPS they wont see...


Seems prescient of you. I just read

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...our first look at the performance of the new TITAN [$1200] and appears to be roughly 10% faster than a GTX 1080 Ti [$700]...


I won't be surprised if Vega is expensive too. However, Ryzen was "half price" compared to the actual competition (Intel 8core/16thread). Maybe Vega will be "half price". Nonetheless, I think I'll "keep breathing" until release smile

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#4349844 - 04/08/17 06:58 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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You've added a '0' to the price of the new Titan in your quote.....intentional?

Nvidia will charge whatever they want until there is a product that competes with it so I don't think many people will be surprised with that.


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#4350242 - 04/10/17 03:25 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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When you get to the top end prices can skyrocket for little actual difference.

For example, I am willing to bet that none of us will be able to tell a qualitative difference in driving a $750,000 car and a $3 million car. One is 4x the price of the other, but I bet they're largely the same to drive. And I bet while both are nicer than your current car, even the cheaper one probably doesn't feel 20+ times better.

For people with more money than sense, and a pathological need to have the BEST no matter the cost, these CPUs and video cards were created. Normal people need not apply.



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#4350401 - 04/11/17 10:32 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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The Competition for RX500 series and Vega -- all in one place.

Hopefully, Vega will achieve "parity" with the high end of this list -- but at fewer $$$$.

Competition is good smile

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#4350433 - 04/11/17 12:21 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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I honestly Dont see Vega getting anywhere near Titan Ti/XP...


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#4350520 - 04/11/17 07:52 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4350529 - 04/11/17 08:28 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Fun video smile


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#4350602 - 04/12/17 10:41 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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AMD Ryzen 5 CPUs are out

Review roundup: Reviews are in

AMD Ryzen 5 CPUs are now officially available and the NDA veil has been lifted, giving us plenty of reviews that show the performance of those four SKUs, the Ryzen 5 1600X, Ryzen 5 1600, Ryzen 5 1500X and the Ryzen 5 1400...


A short article with links to 14 reviews by the usual reviewers.

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#4350672 - 04/12/17 02:21 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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same performance kinks as the Ryzen 7s,
Again, Upping memory clocks seem to eliminate or close the performance problem.

memory Clocks affect memory, infinity fabric and cache system.


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#4350690 - 04/12/17 03:22 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/104524-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-overclocked-59ghz-6c12t-enabled/

5.9 GHz Anyone?

Taking Benchmark Records from Intel one by one...


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#4350741 - 04/12/17 07:16 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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I notice that Ryzen motherboards are starting to be sale-priced.

My Gigabyte motherboard BIOS update has gone online. Up to now, I've only used "stock" settings -- no adjustments. With the new BIOS I'll give that memory overclock a try.


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#4350804 - 04/13/17 09:13 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Just released AMD GPU driver 17.4.2 is said to support "Windows 10 Creators Update" -- plus the usual "fixes".

It works on all cards since (and including) the 7000 series and, as usual, works on W7, W8, W10.


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#4350907 - 04/13/17 05:33 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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The RX500 series (Polaris) GPUs look to me like OC'd RX400 series....

What am I missing?

https://videocardz.com/68450/amd-radeon-rx-500-series-official-specifications-and-performance-leaked

....day 135....where's Vega?

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#4350913 - 04/13/17 05:49 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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the white blanking on those pix make them questionable.


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even if they are revised Polaris..

the 400 Series had their share of "issues", they look to have resolved them, w/ better drivers, better layout, better coolers, better vrm, etc.


Even then, w/ my budget being where it is for a while, Im content w/ my FX8350 and Crossfired Lightnings.


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#4350937 - 04/13/17 07:41 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Originally Posted by Bib4Tuna
The RX500 series (Polaris) GPUs look to me like OC'd RX400 series....

What am I missing?

https://videocardz.com/68450/amd-radeon-rx-500-series-official-specifications-and-performance-leaked

....day 135....where's Vega?


Its my understanding that the RX580 and other higher end RX500 are actually a "new chip" (not an overclocked old chip). However, the new chip is an incremental step on the old one. It fixes some issues and runs a bit faster. RX500 series is NOT a significant upgrade for folks with an RX400 series card.

Vega is due right at the end of May -- some say beginning of early June.


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#4351412 - 04/16/17 10:15 AM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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AMD Radeon RX 580 Overclocking and Benchmarks Unveiled – Clocked Up To 1500 MHz On Liquid Cooling


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Using leaked/rumored benchmark results for a "stock" RX580 versus my installed RX480 Reference:

RX580 stock clocks are 8% above my stock clocks. RX580 "graphics" performance in "Fire Strike Extreme" benchmark is 13% greater than my RX480. RX580 also overclocks -- but, overclocking is for fun -- not for anything you can "see" with unaided eyes.

So, RX580 is an improved RX480 (RX580 uses new Polaris 20 chip -- RX480 is Polaris 10). It provides "Bang for Buck" and completely meets minimum VR requirements (they say).

Full disclosure: I'm running Fallout 4 heavily modded (loads of grass and trees and plants where there were none in stock FO4). 1440p resolution. All graphics settings on "ultra" or equal, extra wide field of view, and new 4K graphics throughout (textures are 4096x4096 pixel textures even for small things). In the most complex scenes, FPS falls below 15 at times. So, I need Vega smile


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#4351439 - 04/16/17 04:35 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: Allen]  
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Originally Posted by Allen
Full disclosure: I'm running Fallout 4 heavily modded (loads of grass and trees and plants where there were none in stock FO4). 1440p resolution. All graphics settings on "ultra" or equal, extra wide field of view, and new 4K graphics throughout (textures are 4096x4096 pixel textures even for small things). In the most complex scenes, FPS falls below 15 at times. So, I need Vega smile


Hopefully, that is not your benchmark for Vega.

The Fallout 4 engine is really inefficient and outdated, plus, it scales terribly. The piss poor performance comes from the implementation of the shadow's rendering (an old problem since Skyrim which has much less geometry in objects, but try it on the densely wooded region of Falkreath and you will see similar issues.) and Godrays (which were coded from Gameworks tech, and even the Green Team top cards have problems with that). Set shadows to high and Godrays to medium, and see your FPS soar with almost imperceptible visual difference.

Can't tell you much more than to consider, my now almost legacy 390X 8GB gets exactly the same performance you are getting at those settings.



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#4351502 - 04/16/17 11:31 PM Re: The Future And Current Status of AMD... [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Could be that my issues are as you surmise. And, could be that they are a CPU problem (not GPU). Not CPU because Ryzen is borked -- but because the game engine is borked (as you intimate). But, its an excuse to seriously consider Vega (depending on price tag) smile

Meantime, the excursions below 15 are infrequent enough and not so bothersome that I can't live with it.


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AMD Radeon RX 580/570 Review Roundup


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Today the official RX580/RX570 reviews/benchmarks become public. A world wide list of links to officially authorized reviews at the above site.

The list is not fully populated. It will "grow" as the day progresses, I assume.


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