Saw Gerrera actually did not just give up and deny his tactical knowledge to the rebels... that would be silly.

He actually had a long passionate love affair with Bor Gullet (the mind reading octopus alien), and they had a death pact for whatever day they got attacked because, as you well know, octopi can not run very well.

So even when the final shot only shows us Saw's face when the cave collapsed, you should have seen the things Bor was doing to him in the background.

Saw died a happy man.

Did anyone else noticed that Krennic was promoted after capturing #%&*$# Erso from Six Cherry Jolly Ranchers (really?... that name is censored?).



to Six Cherry Jolly Ranchers and Six Hall's Mentho-Lyptus Ice Peppermint Drops , which is somehow the inverse candy rank as Tarkin?

It was a very short lived promotion....

The whole rank rectangle thing has always been a mystery to me, and I like to keep it that way, just like the Purina dog chow square the Rebels have.



I just watched this on Blu-Ray and it blew up pretty good, IMHO.

Lots of fan service!

Stilted dialog? Check.
Romance without chemistry? Check.
Pew Pew? Check.
Big explosions? Check.
Friggin' teenagers making adult stuff get destroyed? Check.
Droids telling the best jokes and being the most relateable people in the film? Check.
Random cameos of minor characters for no reason? Check. ("I'm wanted on twelve systems....").

At least they didn't do any little kid pandering. No fart jokes, for example (I'm looking at you Episode I). When they say loads of people lost their lives to get the plans, they weren't kidding.

Seriously, there's a lot I liked about this film, the largest being that the Rebellion isn't painted as a bunch of Lawful Good Paladin types who never do anything dark or underhanded. Nobody has clean hands. Dude straight up kills a trusted informant because he has a bum arm and can't climb away from the Storm Troopers....and he's the main hero! Well, the co-hero. The Jen chick is supposed to be the hero, I guess, but she's really just a tool that gets used again and again.

Luke is clueless about either the Empire or the Rebellion in Episode IV and V. He was, if we'll all remember, whining about not being able to join "the academy" to become a pilot. The only folks running flight academies one applied for as a student would be the Empire! And his exposure to the Rebellion was some old dude known for being a crazy hermit and a hot chick in a hologram...and then a filmy white dress under which she wore no underwear.

Han knows, but keeps it to himself. The Rebels are sufficiently questionable in actions that Chewie, who fought in the Clone Wars and helped Yoda escape, opted out to pal around with Han in smuggling stuff for Hutts and their ilk.

Oh, on CGI. Both CGI'd actors looked too thin in the face. But a passable attempt.

The CGI Peter Cushing was freakishly well done. What a huge improvement over that terrible young version of Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy.

I don't think the original stealing of the plans was supposed to be "death-free." Look at the text of the original opening crawl:

It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire. During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire’s ultimate weapon, the DEATH STAR, an armored space station with enough power to destroy an entire planet. Pursued by the Empire’s sinister agents, Princess Leia races home aboard her starship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the galaxy….

Seems to me that if there was a battle, it would be surprising to have no deaths.

I'd accept it is vague enough to say for sure...however...

I'm sorry, I'm actually not sure what that clip is supposed to say about deaths - can you explain? I know that Vader says transmissions were beamed about this ship, and in Rogue One it was the larger ship, but I think they tried to address that by having Leia's ship docked inside of the larger ship, in essence making them one at the time of the transmission. Also, Leia says they're on a diplomatic mission, but I take that as just a cover story in case they can't be directly traced back to Scarif, and the opening crawl does say she was pursued, so the empire must have been after her for a reason. But even with that, I don't get anything from that clip that addresses lives lost or not, so I must be missing something.

Oh!...pardon...silly, silly me!

I meant to post this video instead.




Hope that clarifies what I was thinking!

Ohhhhkaaaaayy....

Wasn't about 15 years?

For Dart...

Neat.

Always look to the left on a senior officer to spot the ink pen; the Colonel will be pissed if you miss it!

I just watched Rogue One and Episode IV back to back, and it's pretty seamless. It explains why Leia had them go straight from the Death Star to Yavin - they already knew what was in the plans, just not the specifics - even though she knew they were being tracked. Therefore, no convincing of what needed to be done and they got right on it. The sense of urgency makes sense.

On Vader seeing the ship flee Data Farm Planet, catching it, and Leia pulling the lame "we're a diplomatic mission" stuff, well, what was she supposed to say? "Yep, you got us!" Might as well play the BS story to the hilt, especially since the Senate was still a thing.

On Luke and the naive picture of the Rebellion in the Orig Trig...it makes sense, as it's from Luke's perspective. Luke is a mushroom (kept in the dark and fed BS), to be sure, a single disposable tool to get Vader to turn on the Emperor. I just always thought the Rebellion was painted as too goody-goody in the movies. Again, because it's all from Luke's perspective and is limited to the things he does (including bailing on the Rebellion to do light gymnastics in a swamp).*

I also pegged why Tarkin looks weird in Rogue One; they made his face too expressive, with too much motion above the eyebrows in the CGI version. The actual actor only uses his eyebrows for emphasis on main points and rarely moves his forehead muscles. Indeed, he's an example of conservation of movement to give him a larger sense of authority. So they animated him in a too...animated...manner, making him a bobblehead by comparison.

All in all, Rogue One was a very good addition to the Star Wars saga, even if it ruins all the jokes about why the f**k they had an exhaust port that went straight down to the reactor. It wasn't a design flaw, it was a feature.

* I like the theory that what we're seeing in the movies is actually a retelling of the events by R2-D2 after the fact, which would explain the terrible dialog (he's filling in blanks for when he wasn't there and guessing what people say to romance each other), the inconsistencies, and why C3PO look so hapless and useless 99% of the time.

Yes, you are right. I guess my head was thinking strictly within the time frame of the movie.

I kind of always thought those were pens also. Didn't know they are "Data Cylinders" . So the bigger your USB thumb drive the more important you are. Just like in real life. lol

One design decision I'll never understand from the Star Wars universe are the colors of the lasers.


Imperial ships and fighters fire green lasers while Rebel ships and fighters fire red lasers even though for Jedi/Sith it is reversed. Green lightsabers are only used by Jedi while red lightsabers are only used by Sith.


The color red has pretty much always been associated with evil in movies.

I don't know, but I'm OK with arbitrary colours being used rather than "red = bad" etc
In the very fist movie, i.e. Ep IV, the light sabres for light side Sith are blue. I think green only happened when Luke made his own in Ep VI yes? (After losing his old one in Ep V.)

There's only one Sith in "A New Hope" and that is Vader who had a red lightsaber. Obi-Wan had a blue one and of course he was Jedi.


In the SW prequels there were several Jedi who had a green lightsaber.

Jedi, not "light side Sith", of course brainfart.

IIRC, the colour of the lightsaber "blade" is dependent on the type of "Kyber-Chrystal" used. For some reason I've already forgotten, Sith prefered chrystals that created a red blade. Also, according to the new Disney canon crap, apparently the ability to wield the lightsaber is dependent of the strenght of the force that the user is sending through the chrystal or some such nonsense. Or not. I've reached a point where I really don't care anymore. Well, at least there are no Midichlorians living inside those chrystals. I guess at least that's something.

Way too much overthinking went into the unnecessary little details, while at the same time retconning the, err, "Sith" out of whole franchise.

IMO, Star Wars stopped being Star Wars in 1983. Everything coming afterwards is just expensive fan fiction. (Lucas was his own biggest fan, so there! ). Of all the fan fiction since then, I much prefer the animated series "Rebels" to the rest of the material. Oh, and the novel "Lost Stars". Incidentally, both are geared towards a teenage audience, yet are - IMO - better than the big budget movies that have been produced between 1999 and now.