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Originally Posted by SkateZilla
the price premium people pay for FPS they wont see...
Seems prescient of you. I just read
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...our first look at the performance of the new TITAN [$1200] and appears to be roughly 10% faster than a GTX 1080 Ti [$700]...
I won't be surprised if Vega is expensive too. However, Ryzen was "half price" compared to the actual competition (Intel 8core/16thread). Maybe Vega will be "half price". Nonetheless, I think I'll "keep breathing" until release
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When you get to the top end prices can skyrocket for little actual difference.
For example, I am willing to bet that none of us will be able to tell a qualitative difference in driving a $750,000 car and a $3 million car. One is 4x the price of the other, but I bet they're largely the same to drive. And I bet while both are nicer than your current car, even the cheaper one probably doesn't feel 20+ times better.
For people with more money than sense, and a pathological need to have the BEST no matter the cost, these CPUs and video cards were created. Normal people need not apply.
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AMD Ryzen 5 CPUs are out
Review roundup: Reviews are in
AMD Ryzen 5 CPUs are now officially available and the NDA veil has been lifted, giving us plenty of reviews that show the performance of those four SKUs, the Ryzen 5 1600X, Ryzen 5 1600, Ryzen 5 1500X and the Ryzen 5 1400...
A short article with links to 14 reviews by the usual reviewers.
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I notice that Ryzen motherboards are starting to be sale-priced.
My Gigabyte motherboard BIOS update has gone online. Up to now, I've only used "stock" settings -- no adjustments. With the new BIOS I'll give that memory overclock a try.
Its my understanding that the RX580 and other higher end RX500 are actually a "new chip" (not an overclocked old chip). However, the new chip is an incremental step on the old one. It fixes some issues and runs a bit faster. RX500 series is NOT a significant upgrade for folks with an RX400 series card.
Vega is due right at the end of May -- some say beginning of early June.
Using leaked/rumored benchmark results for a "stock" RX580 versus my installed RX480 Reference:
RX580 stock clocks are 8% above my stock clocks. RX580 "graphics" performance in "Fire Strike Extreme" benchmark is 13% greater than my RX480. RX580 also overclocks -- but, overclocking is for fun -- not for anything you can "see" with unaided eyes.
So, RX580 is an improved RX480 (RX580 uses new Polaris 20 chip -- RX480 is Polaris 10). It provides "Bang for Buck" and completely meets minimum VR requirements (they say).
Full disclosure: I'm running Fallout 4 heavily modded (loads of grass and trees and plants where there were none in stock FO4). 1440p resolution. All graphics settings on "ultra" or equal, extra wide field of view, and new 4K graphics throughout (textures are 4096x4096 pixel textures even for small things). In the most complex scenes, FPS falls below 15 at times. So, I need Vega
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Originally Posted by Allen
Full disclosure: I'm running Fallout 4 heavily modded (loads of grass and trees and plants where there were none in stock FO4). 1440p resolution. All graphics settings on "ultra" or equal, extra wide field of view, and new 4K graphics throughout (textures are 4096x4096 pixel textures even for small things). In the most complex scenes, FPS falls below 15 at times. So, I need Vega
Hopefully, that is not your benchmark for Vega.
The Fallout 4 engine is really inefficient and outdated, plus, it scales terribly. The piss poor performance comes from the implementation of the shadow's rendering (an old problem since Skyrim which has much less geometry in objects, but try it on the densely wooded region of Falkreath and you will see similar issues.) and Godrays (which were coded from Gameworks tech, and even the Green Team top cards have problems with that). Set shadows to high and Godrays to medium, and see your FPS soar with almost imperceptible visual difference.
Can't tell you much more than to consider, my now almost legacy 390X 8GB gets exactly the same performance you are getting at those settings.
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Could be that my issues are as you surmise. And, could be that they are a CPU problem (not GPU). Not CPU because Ryzen is borked -- but because the game engine is borked (as you intimate). But, its an excuse to seriously consider Vega (depending on price tag)
Meantime, the excursions below 15 are infrequent enough and not so bothersome that I can't live with it.