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#4327662 - 01/10/17 06:53 PM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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Great info Frederf, please elaborate what Leaf is asking about.

I am reading this with great interest as I have been a long time lurker for the MiG-21 and currently a somewhat nervous AJS-37 customer-to-be, all due to the, IMO, horrible track record of LN activations.

Could it be that buying and installing the Fishbed today would not put me in an activation mayhem after all?

Maybe Cobra could add some inputs?

(yeah, I read elsewhere he feels defensive in here but I think he should not, we slap opinions and products like there is no tomorrow at times but never persons, well sometimes, but we have some really good moderators here slapping us when we do biggrin and I truly appreciate Cobra's presense and explainations - more so considering how harch we can be at times but I blame our excessive dedication to this hobby of ours)

#4327671 - 01/10/17 07:48 PM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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With values obscured this is my MIG-21 and UH-1H registry entry. The former is simple having less folders and the latter is more complex having the "settings" and "bindings" folder.

Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Leatherneck Simulations]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Leatherneck Simulations\DCS:MiG-21 BiS]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Leatherneck Simulations\DCS:MiG-21 BiS\Keys]
"LastNumber"=""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Leatherneck Simulations\DCS:MiG-21 BiS\Keys\License0]
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Version"=dword:00000007
"Number"=""
"CreationTime"=hex:f0...
"RunTimeData4"=hex:b0.
"Key"="..."
"HardwareProfile0"=hex:4a...
"HardwareProfile1"=hex:4b...


Code:
[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-476956861-1960914366-3782544835-1000\SOFTWARE\Eagle Dynamics\UH1H]

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-476956861-1960914366-3782544835-1000\SOFTWARE\Eagle Dynamics\UH1H\Keys]
"LastNumber"="..."

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-476956861-1960914366-3782544835-1000\SOFTWARE\Eagle Dynamics\UH1H\Keys\License0]
"Type"=dword:00000000
"Version"=dword:00000007
"Number"="..."
"CreationTime"=hex:30,...
"RunTimeData4"=hex:30,...
"Key"="..."
"HardwareProfile0"=hex:ff,...

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-476956861-1960914366-3782544835-1000\SOFTWARE\Eagle Dynamics\UH1H\Keys\Settings]

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-476956861-1960914366-3782544835-1000\SOFTWARE\Eagle Dynamics\UH1H\Keys\Settings\Binding]

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-476956861-1960914366-3782544835-1000\SOFTWARE\Eagle Dynamics\UH1H\Keys\Settings\Binding\Hardware]

[HKEY_USERS\S-1-5-21-476956861-1960914366-3782544835-1000\SOFTWARE\Eagle Dynamics\UH1H\Keys\Settings\Binding\Hardware\AutoActivation]
"SilentActivationSerialNumber"="..."

#4327674 - 01/10/17 07:51 PM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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2. The answer is the simple kind

And yes I have problems with MIG-21 activations



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#4333949 - 02/02/17 05:38 AM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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And i have zero problems smile


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#4338108 - 02/16/17 11:16 PM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: Haukka81]  
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Originally Posted By: Haukka81
And i have zero problems smile





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#4347755 - 03/29/17 11:01 PM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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new patch coming

Dear all,

Most of you know we have issues with the StarForce protection for the MiG-21Bis module.
The primary complaint was that the protection was not flexible enough for the users' hardware and/or software changes.

We took this very seriously, and dedicated our time to work on the fix along with the people on the StarForce team.

Our Starforce patch will be distributed along Eagle Dynamics next DCS World openBeta patch, which should be released by the end of this week.

This is a major patching event for all of us, and it will require your cooperation for a proper and successful execution. In short, in order to save one activation for MiG-21Bis, you will have to deactivate the module BEFORE the DCS 1.5.6 patch is downloaded to your PC. We advise you to do this in next 24 hours.

We have created a guide with detailed instructions that will help you prepare for the incoming patch: please find the attached two identical documents written in English and Russian languages.

Please feel free to distribute them among your friends that are using the MiG-21Bis module.

Note that if you are using DCS World 2.0.5 openAlpha, you do not have to do this at this time. However, when Eagle Dynamics decide to distribute the patch for DCS World 2.0.5 openAlpha, we will distribute the same StarForce patch; thus a simmilar procedure will be required. We will do our best to keep you informed in time.

We sincerely appologize for this inconvinience. Our ultimate goal is your satisfaction: there are things we have to do to get there, and there are some thing we have to do together.

We will provide help along the way and we hope this transition will be sucessful. We also hope you will like the fixes we prepared in the next patch.

If you need any help please write us at support@leatherneck-sim.com.

Your dedicated developers,
LNS


https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3095521#post3095521



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#4347828 - 03/30/17 01:12 PM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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So, if I get the "MiG-21 needs to be activated" prompt each time I start DCS, and I just click Exit and skip flying it, is it currently deactivated?

It's so broken for me that an activation lasts only till the next reboot. I literally can activate, fly, reboot, go back into DCSW and get the prompt again without changing a thing.

I noticed that document says to delete the LN key...but is the Viggen in there? I never looked. Might make more sense to delete the MiG-21 key inside it.



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#4347852 - 03/30/17 02:19 PM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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"Delete product registry entries, (skip in case of successful deactivation)"

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#4347862 - 03/30/17 02:54 PM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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Yes, but if the deactivation is UNSUCCESSFUL...

AND you have the Viggen...

Problem?



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#4347873 - 03/30/17 03:24 PM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: Jedi Master]  
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master

I noticed that document says to delete the LN key...but is the Viggen in there? I never looked. Might make more sense to delete the MiG-21 key inside it.

Viggen keys are under HeatblurSimulations. So deleting the LN key (for the Mig) wont affect Viggen.

Last edited by EagleEye[GER]; 03/30/17 03:25 PM.
#4348087 - 03/31/17 02:31 PM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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Ah, good! thumbsup




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#4348232 - 04/01/17 02:45 AM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: Jedi Master]  
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Anybody got this new patch working? Not me. DEL registry and the Mig-21. Now it says my key is no good. I PMed support.

Steve

New info: I had a very good experience with support, Mig 21 now activated and working

Steve

Last edited by SoCal; 04/01/17 08:43 PM. Reason: New info

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#4348254 - 04/01/17 07:07 AM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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Ok seems I now understand a bit wats going on.

If you want to have the MiG21 in the new open beta patch you must deacitvate it before applying the patch (or do the regedit dance). But then, you can only use the MiG21 in the 1.5.6 open beta and NOT in 1.5.6 stable OR 2.0.5 alpha! This has to do with some starforce update(s) which need to be applied to the other DCS versions in the near future.
Only after this you can use the MiG21 in all version in parallel.

They (ED) really REALLY need to trigger some warnings during the installation. Not everyone is searching and browsing the forums beforehand to look after some infos like "do this or do that before applying the patch". Same with the Microsoft update which hast to be installed separately. On nearly every other SW there is a warning saying "Please before applying the patch make sure you have the latest xxx. Please download and install it via xxx".

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#4348261 - 04/01/17 08:49 AM Re: BEWARE buying the MIG-21 [Re: leaf_on_the_wind]  
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You understood it very well. For the time being it's indeed either flying the updated MiG only in 1.5.6 OB, or outdated MiG only in 1.5.6 stable & 2.0.5, but not both cases at the same time. That is until the latter versions get patched up as well.

Incorporating the warning trigger would require changing the updater.exe and frankly I don't see anyone in ED bothering with it only for a single module DRM overhaul procedure... However, they could at least place the relevant waring (with link) in the update release notes - not that everyone reads them anyway, but most people do - that would save lots of trouble.

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