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#4316538 - 11/30/16 08:45 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4316608 - 12/01/16 03:39 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4316663 - 12/01/16 10:53 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4316705 - 12/01/16 01:38 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4343332 - 03/10/17 05:40 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: heat2151]  
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Hello All,

Just came across this bit of news, posted earlier on their Facebook pages hopefully this is the light at the end of the tunnel for all of of us that are tomcat fans.

https://www.facebook.com/leathernecksim

There's no rest for the wicked! While we're working hard to iron out Viggen launch issues and add a lot of new exciting content and features to that aircraft, we're also working very hard on every aspect of the F-14, from the flight model, to the deep subsystems, and now finally we're taking our first big steps into the weapon systems.
The flight model is rapidly nearing full completion, with current focus being on matching our engine models to the available data.
We'll be highlighting all of these features in depth as we move along. smile
Working with museums and experts around the world is one of the most important parts of the development process.
For DCS: F-14, we've been lucky to enjoy the hospitality of the Tulsa air and Space Center and Hickory Aviation Museum! We are incredibly grateful to be able to spend some time in real F-14 air-frames to make sure we really nail every aspect of our simulation.
Next month we're wrapping up our final F-14 research trip at Hickory, NC, who are currently working on restoring an F-105 Thunderchief. You can help us say thank you and expand on our modest contribution here: https://www.gofundme.com/2npjqn6s
Enjoy some quick shots below. There's plenty more to come! smile


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#4343482 - 03/10/17 05:55 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Remind me again when this project was started??


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#4343488 - 03/10/17 06:01 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Must still be early in the development - there are no vortices permanently trailing off the wings. . .

#4343539 - 03/10/17 09:40 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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We will see what happens as the team is splitting according to leatherneck's Facebook page.


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#4343540 - 03/10/17 09:40 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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#4343574 - 03/10/17 11:23 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Wow... really?

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How do you stabilize "stuff"??


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#4343576 - 03/10/17 11:37 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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I think they meant staff, not stuff.

#4343593 - 03/11/17 12:57 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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i can only hope the sepation doesnt break up the project they(both sides) were working on

#4343602 - 03/11/17 01:52 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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Regain financial stability? And if they don't? Where does this leave the folk who bought the alphas/betas whatever.


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Wags October 2017 "the investment vs. generated revenue has been excellent for the World War II aircraft. In fact, the P-51D Mustang has twice the cost effectiveness of the A-10C Warthog."
#4343603 - 03/11/17 01:56 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: Johnny_Redd]  
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Originally Posted by Johnny_Redd
Regain financial stability? And if they don't? Where does this leave the folk who bought the alphas/betas whatever.


Well, they are based in Florida now and the U.S. is a very litigious country.


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#4343609 - 03/11/17 03:12 AM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: cdelucia]  
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Originally Posted by cdelucia
Must still be early in the development - there are no vortices permanently trailing off the wings. . .


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#4343648 - 03/11/17 01:40 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: nadal]  
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Originally Posted by nadal
i can only hope the sepation doesnt break up the project they(both sides) were working on


So here's the rundown:

Nick/Cobra, sort of the face of Leatherneck, is leaving Leatherneck studios. He is taking with him all the rights, agreements and and so far produced content on the F-14 and Viggen, along with the two teams working on those projects, and making a new studio called Heatblur. Given that the Viggen was released on the Heatblur website, we can safely assume this split has been in the works for months.

Meanwhile, Leatherneck Studios, who is still made up of 3 of the original team of 4 and 2 additional contractors, is maintaining full control over the MiG-21Bis module as well as all trademarks and agreements held by Leatherneck Studios (Stuff like the old website and bugtracker, logos ect). In addition, Leatherneck Studios is changing their name to Magnitude 3 LLC.

3rd Party status is given on a module basis, not a company basis, so both Heatblur and Magnitude 3 have 3rd party agreements with ED, and both teams have said this split is in no way affecting the modules being produced so far.

#4343667 - 03/11/17 02:36 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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WOW, that does sound suspiciously like LN has been asset stripped of the fresh revenue streams - Viggen & F-14 whilst all the liabilites are being left with the new 3 man LN team, who to quote need to '"regain financial stability"

The mig-21 is flat out broken 2 years after release with tons of bugs and whole systems not working correctly, so it probably needs much more development time and money spending on it, but no doubt has made the bulk of the sales revenue it's ever going to make. (and have STILL failed to honor backer rewards)

I wouldn't be surprised to see LN wound up in the future.

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#4343673 - 03/11/17 02:55 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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People have been saying, though I haven't taken time to find the actual post, that M3 is also getting to keep the F4U Corsair and Iwo Jima map.

#4343674 - 03/11/17 02:59 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: Tirak]  
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Originally Posted by Tirak
People have been saying, though I haven't taken time to find the actual post, that M3 is also getting to keep the F4U Corsair and Iwo Jima map.


The Iwo Jima map is on hold indefinitely due to lack of manpower to work on it.

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Thanks to TFC/ED understanding and patience, M3 acquired the contracts for MiG-21 and the Corsair, while we will release our rights for Viggen and the Tomcat to Heatblur once the transition is over as agreed. For clarification, we are not receiving royalties for Viggen, so split is clear concerning the project ownership. Iwo Jima is on ice at the moment, since we have no staff for such a complex and time consuming development such is theater creation. This might change in future - but no promises, it’s too farfetched at the moment.



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#4343684 - 03/11/17 03:36 PM Re: DCS: F-14A/A+/B By Leatherneck Simulations [Re: SkateZilla]  
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I don't see the point of Iwo Jima, anyway. There's no Japan to fly to, from there. And there aren't any Japanese planes to fly against if there was. So you'd be left with taking off from the airfield on Iwo, fly a few feet away to a target on the island, drop your bombs, strafe a bit, go back and land. That would probably get old in about 45 minutes or less.


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