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#4342617 - 03/07/17 06:30 PM Star Trek Discovery has its captain  
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So he becomes the second UK actor to become a Star Trek captain on tv. I think he'll be great.

http://deadline.com/2017/03/star-trek-discovery-captain-jason-isaacs-cast-1202038246/


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#4342633 - 03/07/17 07:09 PM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I think he's a good actor, so in a way I'm a little disappointed that he got this role because what I've heard of the show doesn't sound that great to me, and CBS making it only available through their subscription service I think will doom it. I think he will be good in it, though.


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#4342653 - 03/07/17 09:01 PM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Well The Dig got cancelled, although he was an American there.

He'll always be Malfoy to me, though.
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#4342659 - 03/07/17 09:08 PM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Yawn.............


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#4342677 - 03/07/17 09:47 PM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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It's Capt Steele from BHD!
Great choice IMO. Especially after how disappointing Bakula was.


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#4342721 - 03/08/17 03:20 AM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I thought Bacula was great, but then I thought "Enterprise" was great in general.


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#4342729 - 03/08/17 05:32 AM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Hey captain, remember when you got your Latin mixed up and skinned alive by the Spock?

#4342752 - 03/08/17 11:52 AM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
I thought Bacula was great, but then I thought "Enterprise" was great in general.



Enterprise started off weak but it certainly improved in seasons 3 and 4.


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Star Trek has always been about ensembles, and frankly Enterprise had a letdown for a supporting cast. Connor Trinneer was good and really...that was it. The rest was more or less forgettable. T'Pol and Reed had moments, but only moments.

While a good captain is the foundation of the series, the rest of the cast is the walls. The ship is the roof. smile



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#4342781 - 03/08/17 02:05 PM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: Jedi Master]  
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Originally Posted by Jedi Master


While a good captain is the foundation of the series, the rest of the cast is the walls. The ship is the roof. smile



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Or in the case of Babylon 5 and DS9, the station is the roof!


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#4342789 - 03/08/17 02:29 PM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Yes, you might generalize it as "location".



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#4342815 - 03/08/17 04:14 PM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
I thought Bacula was great, but then I thought "Enterprise" was great in general.


I loved it too, beginning to end. Part of it is that Archer was the pioneer and not supposed to know what to do in all situations. No Prime Directive, not Federation...they were writing the book as they went.
However, part was also Bakula, although likable, can be pretty bland. Sometimes he seemed to be doing a Kirk impression..with his...halting...cadence.
Or maybe Connor Trinneer doing such a bang up job as Trip just showed him up unintentionally?


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#4342826 - 03/08/17 04:45 PM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: Raw Kryptonite]  
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Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite

However, part was also Bakula, although likable, can be pretty bland.



This was also my observation when I watched the first season of Enterprise.


Bakula is a good actor but he was in my opinion just missing that intangible "screen presence" or gravitas if you will on the show. It's something that you really can't teach an actor and it's something that you can't predict until you watch the final product.

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Not all actors can pull off authority.

Nor can all actual leaders.



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I would rate the primary actors of "Enterprise", on a scale from 1-10 with 10 being excellent, as follows:

Scott Bakula - 8

Connor Trinneer - 9

John Billingsley - 9

Jolene Blalock - 7

Dominic Keating - 7

Anthony Montgomery - 5

Linda Park - 5



In the case of the last 3 some of that maybe can be put down to writing, these three just didn't have a lot of good episodes centered on their characters.


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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Jedi Master


While a good captain is the foundation of the series, the rest of the cast is the walls. The ship is the roof. smile



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Or in the case of Babylon 5 and DS9, the station is the roof!


But in B5 the roof is the floor and the floor the roof... madness that way lies!


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Originally Posted by Jedi Master
Not all actors can pull off authority.

Nor can all actual leaders.



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And some authorities are not leaders!!


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#4348732 - 04/03/17 12:39 PM Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Something tells me that this guy won't be anywhere NEAR as good as Roger Carmel.


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He was pretty good in Super. I'm not worried smile


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Rainn Wilson has been great in everything I've seen him in. However, he's obviously going to have to play it differently.



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