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#4307963 - 11/01/16 09:15 AM Universal controller for WW II planes.  
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Hello everyone. I like a fly old planes (Mustang, Dora and etc.) But my x45, two months ago broke down. I start think about buying a new controller, and unintentionally I found this forum. And here in my head was the idea: i build my own controller.
Design assumptions:
- control grip stick B-5 from P-51, connected with rudder pedals,
- seperate engine and fly controle (propeller, engine RPM, trims, etc).
And electronics to all this. fearful

The worst thing for me, is make PCB project, but with the help came Troll and his PCB project "Controll". I am very grateful to him that I can use this project.

Gimbal is ready:



And PCB with Teensy++ 2.0;






Is not beautiful, but work perfectly.


WIP

kristof080

Last edited by kristof080; 11/01/16 09:33 AM.
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#4308083 - 11/01/16 05:04 PM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Well done, Kristof080. Looks solid. What sensors are you planning to use?

Keep us posted with pics. Always pics.


Cheers,
Flying Colander

#4308102 - 11/01/16 05:50 PM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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I missed it in the video, but what type of centering mechanism do these gimbals use?

#4308115 - 11/01/16 06:37 PM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Their gimbal looks sturdy and smooth - with ball bearings - but don't have a center mechanism (springs...) for now, pic from the video:

https://s17.postimg.org/ipybj27v3/Gimbal_DIY.jpg


#4308175 - 11/01/16 10:03 PM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Hello.
Like Sokol notice, my gimbal is really massive. For now, i do not use center mechanism. Maybe rubber cover is enough. But it remains to be seen and feel. If not, I will have to think and develop something.

For sensors, i will use magnetic sensor TLE5011 (I still wait for them). Here photo PCB:



Because i have no to much time for this project ( 5 year old daughter which broke my x-45, my wife and home renovation), it takes me a lot of time. Sorry about that.

Cheers,
kristof080




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#4308265 - 11/02/16 06:27 AM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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I would actually not recommend centre mechanism , At least not right away. I use maxflightstick with hydraulic dampers, I fly DCS choppers COD , BOS and the A10C in DCS
You get muzzle memory for where the centre is quite fast on all planes, and flying choppers it is best not to have centering on your stick, and it was not such a thing on real ww2 planes.
[img]https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t...amp;oe=581C593C[/img]

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#4331485 - 01/25/17 10:53 PM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Hello again,
Small update, my rudder pedals is ready.
Tomorow i make some more photos.

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#4338575 - 02/18/17 02:17 PM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Hello,
base for joystick is ready.



As I wrote before, my construction is without center mechanism. Rubber cover from old Logitech make good job. Is like spring and dumper. Is progressive a bit. I liked.



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#4342671 - 03/07/17 09:22 PM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Hello again. Engine and fly control is almost ready.

Attached Files _20170307_221908.JPG
#4342747 - 03/08/17 10:36 AM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Nice work, Kristof.

How do you plan to mount the throttle-side module?

Can you post some piccies of the innards? What kind of "pots" did you use for the trim wheels? How did you engineer the lever at the end? What will you use it for?

Cheers,

Flying Colander

#4342774 - 03/08/17 01:48 PM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Hello Flying_Colander.

Thank You.

For trim whells i use normal encoders.

Throttle module is mounted, top on the box, like You see on photo.

Lever on the end is for flaps.


Inside:

Attached Files _20170308_144710.JPG_20170308_145207.JPG
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#4342802 - 03/08/17 03:20 PM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Throttle mechanism:

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#4343349 - 03/10/17 10:45 AM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Thanks for sharing, Kristof. Elegant in its simplicity, mate.

Cheers,

FC

#4348293 - 04/01/17 12:36 PM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Originally Posted by kristof080
Hello again,
Small update, my rudder pedals is ready.
Tomorow i make some more photos.

Nice work Kristof

Did you use TLE5011 across both rudder and pedals?
Also do you mind posting some shots of the pedal movement/connection?
Cheers

#4348694 - 04/03/17 09:29 AM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Hello Barra,

Yes, i use TLE5011 for rudder and for brake pedals.





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#4348736 - 04/03/17 12:52 PM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Much appreciated Kristof.

#4352511 - 04/21/17 11:53 AM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Hello. I finish joystick.

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#4353044 - 04/24/17 07:59 AM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Nice and simple Kristof. How have you felt it performs? Nice and accurate?

Also when you built rudder pedals did you use normal ball bearings? or did you use the bearings that take weight in the horizontal plane - not sure of their name?

#4353319 - 04/25/17 05:15 AM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Hello Barra. Is nice and accurate. I did not except that jawdrop I can not compare with my old x-45. I once felt the same, when I changed from Fiat 126p to Ford Mondeo. whoohoo

For rudder peddals i use normal ball bearings:
- Main axes:
Bearing housing
- rest axes:
Ball bearings

#4353333 - 04/25/17 07:44 AM Re: Universal controller for WW II planes. [Re: kristof080]  
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Ok thanks Kristof. thanks for comment on build. Cheers thumbsup

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