#4342653 - 03/07/17 09:01 PM
Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain
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Well The Dig got cancelled, although he was an American there.
He'll always be Malfoy to me, though. "Captain Malfoy, the Dark Lord is hailing."
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#4342677 - 03/07/17 09:47 PM
Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain
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It's Capt Steele from BHD! Great choice IMO. Especially after how disappointing Bakula was.
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#4342721 - 03/08/17 03:20 AM
Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain
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I thought Bacula was great, but then I thought "Enterprise" was great in general.
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#4342752 - 03/08/17 11:52 AM
Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain
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I thought Bacula was great, but then I thought "Enterprise" was great in general. Enterprise started off weak but it certainly improved in seasons 3 and 4.
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#4342779 - 03/08/17 02:03 PM
Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain
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Star Trek has always been about ensembles, and frankly Enterprise had a letdown for a supporting cast. Connor Trinneer was good and really...that was it. The rest was more or less forgettable. T'Pol and Reed had moments, but only moments. While a good captain is the foundation of the series, the rest of the cast is the walls. The ship is the roof. The Jedi Master
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#4342781 - 03/08/17 02:05 PM
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While a good captain is the foundation of the series, the rest of the cast is the walls. The ship is the roof. The Jedi Master Or in the case of Babylon 5 and DS9, the station is the roof!
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#4342789 - 03/08/17 02:29 PM
Re: Star Trek Discovery has its captain
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Yes, you might generalize it as "location".
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#4342815 - 03/08/17 04:14 PM
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I thought Bacula was great, but then I thought "Enterprise" was great in general. I loved it too, beginning to end. Part of it is that Archer was the pioneer and not supposed to know what to do in all situations. No Prime Directive, not Federation...they were writing the book as they went. However, part was also Bakula, although likable, can be pretty bland. Sometimes he seemed to be doing a Kirk impression..with his...halting...cadence. Or maybe Connor Trinneer doing such a bang up job as Trip just showed him up unintentionally?
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#4342826 - 03/08/17 04:45 PM
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However, part was also Bakula, although likable, can be pretty bland.
This was also my observation when I watched the first season of Enterprise. Bakula is a good actor but he was in my opinion just missing that intangible "screen presence" or gravitas if you will on the show. It's something that you really can't teach an actor and it's something that you can't predict until you watch the final product.
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#4342879 - 03/08/17 07:27 PM
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Not all actors can pull off authority.
Nor can all actual leaders.
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#4342927 - 03/08/17 09:51 PM
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I would rate the primary actors of "Enterprise", on a scale from 1-10 with 10 being excellent, as follows:
Scott Bakula - 8
Connor Trinneer - 9
John Billingsley - 9
Jolene Blalock - 7
Dominic Keating - 7
Anthony Montgomery - 5
Linda Park - 5
In the case of the last 3 some of that maybe can be put down to writing, these three just didn't have a lot of good episodes centered on their characters.
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#4342985 - 03/09/17 01:38 AM
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While a good captain is the foundation of the series, the rest of the cast is the walls. The ship is the roof. The Jedi Master Or in the case of Babylon 5 and DS9, the station is the roof! But in B5 the roof is the floor and the floor the roof... madness that way lies!
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#4342986 - 03/09/17 01:40 AM
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Not all actors can pull off authority.
Nor can all actual leaders.
The Jedi Master And some authorities are not leaders!!
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#4348757 - 04/03/17 02:48 PM
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Rainn Wilson has been great in everything I've seen him in. However, he's obviously going to have to play it differently.
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