#4339819 - 02/23/17 07:54 PM
Trying vaping once more, questions?
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Got to stop smoking, but an addictive personality and nicotine don't have a good prognosis. So, back to trying ecigs. I have a bunch of questions, but frankly overwhelmed with my searches on the good ' ol internets. Way too much information for me to comprehend. First I used the 1 use cigarette lookalikes but they really didn't satisfy, so I went ahead and went to a dedicated vape store, and purchased a "mod", specifically an iStick PICO , a well reviewed device. The negatives of this mod, for me , anyway, is that it has way too many variables for me to understand how to get to a real replacement, taste and feel like, for a real cigarette. Voltage. Watts. Resistance. Temperature control. Air flow. And then, of course, all the different liquids with all the variables that they have! **Brain explodes*******! All I want is a vape that tastes like a cigarette, draws like a cigarette, and delivers the same level of nicotine that I get out of an ordinary Pall Mall Red 100. Not terribly concerned about the gigantic vapor clouds, although that is a cool effect, So, my questions: What do the different settings do? Raising the voltage? Adjusting the air flow? Resistance of the coil? Can't seem to find simple information on this in any of the ecig forums, Youtube, wherever.
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#4339832 - 02/23/17 08:56 PM
Re: Trying vaping once more, questions?
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My guess is you may need to go into one of those stores and ask them directly, unless anyone here has first hand knowledge.
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#4339848 - 02/23/17 09:59 PM
Re: Trying vaping once more, questions?
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Li'l;
I have been cigarette/nicotine free for almost EIGHT months now. I smoked for FIFTY years. The damn things killed my dad, helped kill my mom and tried to kill ME!
I just quit making excuses, and instead of having a cigarette I laughed at myself for even thinking about it. Yeah I used the patches, they helped a bunch. It really only takes a week or so, but go full circle on the patches.
Quit being a wuss and do it.
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#4339852 - 02/23/17 10:38 PM
Re: Trying vaping once more, questions?
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Keep it simple, but not so simple as those crappy Blu's, 808's and the like. You want something between that and a mod box, IMO. You also need better juice than that prefilled store bought stuff that looks like cig filters. This is a newer version of what my wife and I use and will likely switch to as our heads are getting hard to come by: http://www.evcigarettes.com/kanger-top-evod-starter-kit/Every so often you'll replace that atomizer head, the thing that's basically a heating element that does the work. Once or twice a month most likely, maybe more if you have an adjustable battery and are getting used to it. That's what you replace the most: http://www.evcigarettes.com/kanger-vocc-t-atomizer-coil-heads-5pcs/In stores, you'll probably pay $5 per head. Better to order. Fill the tank with something good. Experiment. We gave up on tobacco flavors, you simply won't find anything the same. Just try other things, there's a lot out there. We stick to coffee flavors for the most part and things like that. Start with a 12mg juice if you smoke a good bit, then on your next order, cut back to 6mg. The idea is to transition and use less nicotine, at least eventually. This one is a coffee flavor I've stuck with for a while, I'd recommend it. Kind of a cinnamon flavored coffee. http://www.jvapes.com/cinilla-coffee-cinnamon-coffee-e-liquidAnother good one, an excellent coffee flavor and smell: http://www.evcigarettes.com/cafe-du-vape-e-liquid/The thing is, don't vape to replace the taste and smell of smoking. Do it to get rid of the crap that's in cigarettes and to be able to keep the "hand to mouth habit" that's so hard to give up. 12mg, then 6mg, then see how you feel lower than that. A lot of people go down to 0, but that's not easy. On top of all of that, there are VG/PG ratios. One gives you the throaty burn, the other is taste and vapor volume. Stick to 50/50 to start, then experiment 70/30, 30/70. Buy small bottles at first. You can waste a lot of money experimenting to find what you like. Month to month, you're buying juice and atomizer heads. Clean everything from time to time and maintain clean electrical contact. You'll notice it getting less effective after a while, which means cleaning time. After 6-9 months, you may need a new battery. Before that, you'll likely want a second tank and a backup battery to switch out while charging. You'll find a variety, some hold a huge charge but are bulky, some small and convenient. Some adjustable. For those, remember that the more nicotine, the more easily you'll get a burn taste to it, which means turn the power down. Buy 1.8 ohm, kind of middle of the road. It's FAR cheaper to order online than go into the shops. Most will have your order to you in 3 days regular mail, so it isn't a long wait. HTH
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#4339859 - 02/23/17 11:22 PM
Re: Trying vaping once more, questions?
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People have reasons for what they do and how they want to go about doing them. Cold turkey does not work for most that want to quit. It certainly didn't for me. Putting someone down for it doesn't do them any good and just discourages the whole thing. It's also possible that person doesn't want to quit and you're just annoying them. Personally, I quit smoking many years ago by my own means, which was certainly NOT cold turkey. My wife couldn't. These things came out and she tried one and liked it well enough, other than the trouble compared to just buying cigs. She tried the Blu set up, which sucks, but it was physically familiar, which is good. Beyond that, to get an effective set up, she was overwhelmed with the whole thing and dropped it. There's a gadget factor to it, so it appealed to me, so I told her if she would commit to the switch that I'd do it with her and keep it figured out. She agreed and since then, 2 years or so now, hasn't had a cigarette. It's not perfect, it's a compromise, but it's fine. We're healthy, she's happy and not smoking, so I'm happy. I really don't give a crap about nicotine, its the other stuff in cigs that is the main problem. I got my wife off of it, that's all that matters to me. And yes, we enjoy these things. We talk about it like various beers, wine etc. Of course, this is Community Hall, so threads getting hijacked is normal. "Quit being a wuss and do it." On this topic, however, try not belittling someone. You aren't doing anyone any good. If all you can do is recommend the least effective method of quitting, you aren't offering a whole lot. You really think that someone that wants to quit hasn't already tried that? Cold turkey rarely works and when it does, it's usually accompanied by another event that people don't mention. It's rarely straight up will power the first time you want to quit.
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#4339883 - 02/24/17 01:26 AM
Re: Trying vaping once more, questions?
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[/quote] On this topic, however, try not belittling someone. You aren't doing anyone any good. If all you can do is recommend the least effective method of quitting, you aren't offering a whole lot. You really think that someone that wants to quit hasn't already tried that? Cold turkey rarely works and when it does, it's usually accompanied by another event that people don't mention. It's rarely straight up will power the first time you want to quit.[/quote]
No intent to belittle anyone that I can see. The OP expressed a desire to cease smoking and received a few comments from other people who had succeeded, including myself. The "wuss" comment seemed to be humour as far as I could see. If the OP is annoyed by my advice he is welcome to express that himself without a third party taking up his defence.
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#4339904 - 02/24/17 03:15 AM
Re: Trying vaping once more, questions?
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That's just me, that's not going to change.
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#4339913 - 02/24/17 03:51 AM
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Sorry I don't know much about the question but I know all about the struggle. With a bad liver I missed my alcohol vice so smoking ended up being my go to. Which sucks. Not that trusting of the juice, and someone who enjoys a flavor, I'm thinking of going with pipe tobacco and a Firefly 2 . Pricey but thinking it might be worth it in long run?
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#4339975 - 02/24/17 01:16 PM
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Yes, the "Don't be a wuss" comment was an attempt at humor, sorry if some took it wrong.
Good Luck Li'lJ.
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#4339986 - 02/24/17 01:59 PM
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Yes, the "Don't be a wuss" comment was an attempt at humor, sorry if some took it wrong.
Good Luck Li'lJ. Yeah Nixer, I never thought for a second that comment was in any way negative.
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#4339992 - 02/24/17 02:24 PM
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Yes, the "Don't be a wuss" comment was an attempt at humor, sorry if some took it wrong.
Good Luck Li'lJ. I apologize for coming across as hostile. Quitting smoking is one of the hardest things I've ever done, so I can fly off the handle sometimes if I think that effort is belittled. That's not what was going on here, so I was in the wrong.
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#4340910 - 02/27/17 11:05 PM
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devere, thank you for that simple explanation. Last couple of days, I have been researching and fiddling around with all the various options and am getting to realize that there are many roads to the same destination.
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#4341023 - 02/28/17 01:24 PM
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I don't smoke, mainly because my parents smoked and died of cancer. But the last place I worked everybody vaped. There it was more of a hobby for them. Tinkering, modding, more like radio control car collecting, but with smoking devices. The only 2nd hand smoke (yes there is 2nd hand smoke, don't believe the #%&*$# that say their isn't, it gets into my clothes, hair, etc) that I liked was the blackberry and the vanilla flavors.
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