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#4338559 - 02/18/17 01:04 PM Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable  
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It seems that from 1 June 1916 until 1 September 1916, the Nupe 16 is shown in red as "craft not available yet" for Escadrille 15.

After that date, it suddenly becomes available again.

I have WOFF UE v. 4.12.


"Upon my word I've had as much excitement on a car as in the air, especially since the R.F.C. have had women drivers."

James McCudden, Five Years in the Royal Flying Corps
#4338567 - 02/18/17 01:41 PM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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As usual there is probably a historical reason for it, like they had some duds returned or grounded them whatever. Shredward may comment.


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#4338570 - 02/18/17 01:50 PM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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Wait, somebody actually wants the Nieuport 16?!? dizzy


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#4338574 - 02/18/17 02:12 PM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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mmwhahaaa old_simmer


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#4338651 - 02/18/17 08:21 PM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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Hasse,
Found a typo in the datafiles - fixed. Thanks for bringing it to our notice. salute
It will be available when we release the big rebuild of l'Aéronautique Militaire Française - in about two weeks.
Cheers,
shredward


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#4338663 - 02/18/17 08:53 PM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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Great! Looking forward to that big rebuild! smile


"Upon my word I've had as much excitement on a car as in the air, especially since the R.F.C. have had women drivers."

James McCudden, Five Years in the Royal Flying Corps
#4338671 - 02/18/17 09:16 PM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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You mean like real two weeks, or this twoweeks
And since the cat's out of the bag, can you take a look at the French escadrille N23? As far as I can tell there are no default skins for them. Yes, I know, they use the N17 skin. And unless it's an ace it uses a blank skin, with no emblems for each unit. I can copy and rename the N17 skins and it works, but there are some units that don't have N17 skins.


"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4338708 - 02/19/17 12:32 AM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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Quite right. There is no N23 skin for 1916, but there is one for 1917. Simply copy and rename the 1917 skin
off_Nieuport17_t_Esc 23 1917
as
off_Nieuport17_t_Esc 23 1916
That will cover the two months they had it in 1916.
We didn't make a skin for every a/c in the game, as it would take tens of thousands instead or the six or so we have currently.
Cheers,
shredward


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#4338715 - 02/19/17 01:23 AM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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Shredward, thanks for your response. What do we do about the units that flew N23's but no N17's? These would not have the skins to be copied over.
Also, somewhat related, some skins have the Nieuport "N" only on one side of the rudder. Was that normal?


"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4338726 - 02/19/17 03:41 AM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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Short term answer - rename the relevant Nie17 skin to 23 - use the exact same format as the other 23 skins in the folder. The 23 is very nearly identical, and the skins will fit. As for the anomalies, we should note any we find, and fix them
Cheers
Shredward


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#4338731 - 02/19/17 04:36 AM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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Shredward, what I'm trying to say is that there are some units that didn't fly N17's, so there are no files to copy and rename.


"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4338733 - 02/19/17 05:15 AM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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Yes, there are certainly gaps in skin coverage, as well as other aspects of WoFF. We are and will be working to colour In some of the blank pages, but it will take time, and some things may never be done
Cheers
shredward


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#4338746 - 02/19/17 10:29 AM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Hasse]  
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Quote:
Also, somewhat related, some skins have the Nieuport "N" only on one side of the rudder. Was that normal?


Yes, there are maybe a few exceptions, but the "N" was ordinary paint only on the left side of the rudder (at least, for the 10-23 versions. Late versions seems to have it on both sides).

#4338761 - 02/19/17 12:28 PM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: Shredward]  
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Originally Posted By: Shredward
Yes, there are certainly gaps in skin coverage, as well as other aspects of WoFF. We are and will be working to colour In some of the blank pages, but it will take time, and some things may never be done
Cheers
shredward


salute


"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."
#4338762 - 02/19/17 12:31 PM Re: Escadrille 15: Nieuport 16 unavailable [Re: actionjoe]  
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Originally Posted By: actionjoe
Yes, there are maybe a few exceptions, but the "N" was ordinary paint only on the left side of the rudder (at least, for the 10-23 versions. Late versions seems to have it on both sides).

Thanks for the reply Actionjoe, I just couldn't find any reference to the N on the rudder.


"Take the cylinder out of my kidneys,
The connecting rod out of my brain, my brain,
From out of my arse take the camshaft,
And assemble the engine again."

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