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#4338219 - 02/17/17 10:36 AM Re: Saturday Surpirse! The new Alb D.III OAW line. [Re: Dornil]  
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Originally Posted By: Dornil
Sorry for a little offtopic, but what is the actual difference between Alb.D.III and Alb.D.III OAW - in reality and in WoFF?


If my memory serves me well, OAW-made Albatros have a different roundel from "early" Johannistal models.

By the way, it is an amazing work, OvStachel, thanks!

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#4338226 - 02/17/17 11:08 AM Re: Saturday Surpirse! The new Alb D.III OAW line. [Re: Dornil]  
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Originally Posted By: Dornil
Sorry for a little offtopic, but what is the actual difference between Alb.D.III and Alb.D.III OAW - in reality and in WoFF?

The Albatros D.III was built in Johannisthal, Berlin; the version D.III (OAW) was built in Schneidemhl
(OAW stands for "Ostdeutsche Albatros-Werke" = East-German Albatros Factory).

The two versions show minor build differences, different colours for the wing tapes on printed Lozenge camouflage,
and a different placing for the wing and fuselage German crosses.

There was, by the way, a third build: the Albatros D.III (OeFFAG), which was the Austrian version.
This version had a stronger, Austrian Daimler engine, and a much more stable two-spar sesquiplane wing.
It was probably the best Albatros D.III version. It was only used by Austria-Hungary, afaik.

For more detail, maybe our Alb-specialist Jim (James F. Miller) will contribute something here?
Or Elephant; or maybe OvS himself?


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#4338234 - 02/17/17 11:35 AM Re: Saturday Surpirse! The new Alb D.III OAW line. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Olham said it better than me wink
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There was, by the way, a third build: the Albatros D.III (OeFFAG), which was the Austrian version.
This version had a stronger, Austrian Daimler engine, and a much more stable two-spar sesquiplane wing.
It was probably the best Albatros D.III version. It was only used by Austria-Hungary, afaik.


The Poles also used it against the Communists.

#4338582 - 02/18/17 03:02 PM Re: Saturday Surpirse! The new Alb D.III OAW line. [Re: Olham]  
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Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: Dornil
Sorry for a little offtopic, but what is the actual difference between Alb.D.III and Alb.D.III OAW - in reality and in WoFF?

The Albatros D.III was built in Johannisthal, Berlin; the version D.III (OAW) was built in Schneidemhl
(OAW stands for "Ostdeutsche Albatros-Werke" = East-German Albatros Factory).

The two versions show minor build differences, different colours for the wing tapes on printed Lozenge camouflage,
and a different placing for the wing and fuselage German crosses.

There was, by the way, a third build: the Albatros D.III (OeFFAG), which was the Austrian version.
This version had a stronger, Austrian Daimler engine, and a much more stable two-spar sesquiplane wing.
It was probably the best Albatros D.III version. It was only used by Austria-Hungary, afaik.

For more detail, maybe our Alb-specialist Jim (James F. Miller) will contribute something here?
Or Elephant; or maybe OvS himself?


The major and most notable difference between the two are in the forward engine area, and the tail. The OAW built D.III used several longer wooden 'planks' to form the engine bay, starting at the spinner base and ending near the back of the MG mount. It also has square foot-holes for accessing the engine. The rudder is rounded like the D.Va.

Markings are similar, however... the OAW carries only Mauve/Green or Green/Mauve camo, or all lozenge with blue tape. The national insignias are also different on the wings and fuselage. The OAW has bolder, more even looking Maltese grosses, whereas, the Johann built has blockly looking and thinner borders on many of the Jastas. The Johann camo is only tricolor, and no lozenge at all.

Here is a pic from Jim's book which I used extensively to try and get things as close to correct as possible.

I'm 3/4 through the Jastas using the OAW, so I hope to have this pack ready for a Spring release.. .provided I can stay on it. Unfortunately, my wife refuses to sell our 03 Odyssey which now needs a front end rebuild, timing belt and a ton of other crap... back to the tools... I never win. LOL!.



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#4338642 - 02/18/17 08:05 PM Re: Saturday Surpirse! The new Alb D.III OAW line. [Re: OvStachel]  
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James,

Once again man, these look astonishingly good! I've been enjoying the heck out of your work in WOFF UE and I think these will make a fine addition to the game.

Can't believe you're still at it all these years later, and that I'm still here posting about it! Awesome stuff!

Cheers!

#4338667 - 02/18/17 09:02 PM Re: Saturday Surpirse! The new Alb D.III OAW line. [Re: OvStachel]  
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These look very nice and even if all of them are not 100% historical, nobody forces people to use them, so it's all good.

Good work! Keep it up! smile


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#4338713 - 02/19/17 01:14 AM Re: Saturday Surpirse! The new Alb D.III OAW line. [Re: OvStachel]  
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A few more... just trying to get this done.

Jasta 10 Erich Lowenhardt


Jasta 32 Konrad Poralla


Jasts 43 Otto Creutzmann


Jasta 49 Franz Ray


Jasta 78b Paul Wagner


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#4338741 - 02/19/17 09:12 AM Re: Saturday Surpirse! The new Alb D.III OAW line. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Looking great!! thumbsup

#4338754 - 02/19/17 11:15 AM Re: Saturday Surpirse! The new Alb D.III OAW line. [Re: OvStachel]  
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Originally Posted By: OvStachel
Unfortunately, my wife refuses to sell our 03 Odyssey which now needs a front end rebuild,
timing belt and a ton of other crap... back to the tools... I never win. LOL!.

Do you OBD guys EVER sleep, I wonder? salute


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#4338784 - 02/19/17 04:12 PM Re: Saturday Surpirse! The new Alb D.III OAW line. [Re: OvStachel]  
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The D-III had 'flatter' fuselage sides. Those skins look great!

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