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#4326638 - 01/07/17 04:26 PM
Re: The most historically inaccurate war films
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Battle of the Bulge just has to be the biggest turkey of all. Pathetic. Agreed--what a war film clunker. That big finale with Henry Fonda rolling lit oil barrels down an inclined road with Robert Shaw as the fictional German commander (Hessler) trying to get his fake Tiger (M47 Patton) up the hill amid the flames has to be one of the worst and most fake looking scene in war film history. There are so many errors in the film with no possible dramatic reason for them. It's like they went out of their way to get everything wrong. Braveheart is another Mel Gibson film that gets my vote for one of the most inaccurate. Cheers
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#4326665 - 01/07/17 05:15 PM
Re: The most historically inaccurate war films
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aside from the ones already mentioned,
Siege of Firebase Gloria
The Patriot
does Operation Petticoat count? ( even tho i love that movie )
I guess if you accept Operation Petticoat then you have to put "1941" in there as well
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#4326711 - 01/07/17 08:07 PM
Re: The most historically inaccurate war films
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I watched "The Naked and the Dead" the other night. It was pretty cheesy. I was bored. I have to think it was a very inaccurate tale. I never read the Norman Mailer book, maybe that's better.
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#4326716 - 01/07/17 08:47 PM
Re: The most historically inaccurate war films
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From Wiki: Some of the plot points of Operation Petticoat were based on real-life incidents, such as:
- The evacuation of one Navy nurse and several Army nurses from Corregidor to Australia by the submarine USS Spearfish;
- The sinking of the submarine USS Sealion at the pier at Cavite Navy Yard in the Philippines
- The torpedoing of a bus by the USS Bowfin
- Captain Sherman's letter to the supply department at Cavite on the inexplicable lack of toilet paper (based on an actual letter to the supply department of Mare Island Naval Shipyard by Lieutenant Commander James Wiggins "Red" Coe of the submarine USS Skipjack)
- The need to paint a submarine pink due to the lack of enough red or white lead undercoat paint. The heat from the burning Sealion also scorched off the black paint of the nearby USS Seadragon and for a time this submarine fought with only her red lead undercoat visible. This led Tokyo Rose to disparage American "red pirate submarines
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#4326719 - 01/07/17 09:03 PM
Re: The most historically inaccurate war films
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From Wiki:
- The torpedoing of a bus by the USS Bowfin THAT i did not know
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#4326723 - 01/07/17 09:13 PM
Re: The most historically inaccurate war films
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I can let Naked and the Dead slip by because its about a fictitious island, fictitious Marine unit, fictitious General...etc. Norman Mailer was trying to write an anti-war novel.
But yeah! How did I forget The Battle of the Bulge? What a BAD film. And pay attention when you watch it. You'll see snow, then there isn't snow then there is. And some of the scenes are in bright beautiful sunlight. The attack occurred during the worst winter that Europe had experienced in about fifty years!
And the tank battle. When did that happen? "We have to run them out of fuel!" Oh brother!!
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#4326724 - 01/07/17 09:19 PM
Re: The most historically inaccurate war films
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I think that a lot of the war films being mentioned are being unfairly judged. The Dirty Dozen, for instance. I love that movie.
It's the films that are supposed to be about true, HISTORICAL events, yet get everything wrong that are the problem. At least for me.
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#4326736 - 01/07/17 10:02 PM
Re: The most historically inaccurate war films
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Battle of the Bulge?
EDIT: Already mentioned I see... Ah what the hell. It deserves more scorn.
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#4326738 - 01/07/17 10:08 PM
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It's the films that are supposed to be about true, HISTORICAL events, yet get everything wrong that are the problem. At least for me. That hit the nail right on the head.
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#4326741 - 01/07/17 10:22 PM
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Plus, not every film that takes place during a war is a 'War Film'. Nobody would call 'Gone with the wind' a war film, for instance.
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#4326778 - 01/08/17 01:33 AM
Re: The most historically inaccurate war films
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Most inaccurate: Hands down, "Aliens". I mean, in all my years serving in the U.S. Colonial Marines, I never saw such a complete breakdown in discipline. My platoon would have never taken orders from Paul Reiser, and we would have nuked the site from orbit before we even landed...just to be sure.
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#4326917 - 01/08/17 05:29 PM
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'Battle of Britain' though one of my favourite films, it over-simplifies the event, giving the impression that the Hun was cleared from British skies promptly after the big battles of September 15th. The aircraft inaccuracies one has to overlook giving the lack of authentic kites around at the time, thought the producers did make a good fist of it. The biggest mistake was Section Officer Harvey's knickers. Certainly not regulation issue, though I have had to view that scene many times to confirm.......Perhaps I need to have another look to make sure  Generally any Hollywood war film that shows us Brits as Clueless twits gets my goat.
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#4327036 - 01/09/17 12:27 AM
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'Generally any Hollywood war film that shows us Brits as Clueless twits gets my goat. The film was indeed bankrolled by a US studio but the director, writers and actors were all from the UK.
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#4327055 - 01/09/17 02:00 AM
Re: The most historically inaccurate war films
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'The Patriot' gets alot of crap but it is loosely based on some events in the revolutionary war. Colonel Tavington, played by Jason Isaacs, is clearly based off Lieutenant Colonel Banastre Tarleton and the final battle of the film is clearly based on the Battle of Cowpens in South Carolina where a combination of Colonial Regulars and American militia overwhelmingly destroyed the British forces. They do play a bit fast and loose with the facts in the rest of the film however.
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#4327086 - 01/09/17 05:07 AM
Re: The most historically inaccurate war films
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Battle of the Bulge just has to be the biggest turkey of all. Pathetic. Surprised it took so long to get posted. It was truly awful. Midway was not very good either. It was by far more historically accurate that Battle of the Bulge but again, don't let a historic movie get in the way of a baloney love story. I considered it the blueprint for 'Pearl Harbor'.
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