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#4322864 - 12/24/16 02:30 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Brigstock]  
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Originally Posted By: Steve_F
I may be in the minority here, but I don't care for a new map or aircraft.
All I want is the many limitations in CloD fixed.
Right now aircraft spotting is still too difficult, the AI are all over the place, ground control Command routines are a mess. All of this makes SP nearly impossible to enjoy.

I don't mind paying for improvements. I just want to pay for the right improvements.

Right now a new map and new aircraft are right down the bottom of my wish list for CloD.


I agree with you - and I am not SP player, but know that most people coming for CloD actually are old "veterans" that just want play the old& good SP. smile

Fix that basic issues incentive mission makers. And they can prioritize improve the CloD "CAVU" weather to a more "British" one. smile

But the MP players just want more maps (some even don't care about the map be historic) and more "Uber" planes (Fw 190's, etc) - so their "pressure" is more visible.




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#4322873 - 12/24/16 03:00 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Brigstock]  
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Originally Posted By: Steve_F
I may be in the minority here, but I don't care for a new map or aircraft.
All I want is the many limitations in CloD fixed.
Right now aircraft spotting is still too difficult, the AI are all over the place, ground control Command routines are a mess. All of this makes SP nearly impossible to enjoy.

I don't mind paying for improvements. I just want to pay for the right improvements.

Right now a new map and new aircraft are right down the bottom of my wish list for CloD.


+1. And improved radio communication.


There are no accidents and no fatal flaws in the machines; there are only pilots with the wrong stuff.

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#4322886 - 12/24/16 04:33 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Sokol1]  
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Originally Posted By: Sokol1
Originally Posted By: Steve_F
I may be in the minority here, but I don't care for a new map or aircraft.
All I want is the many limitations in CloD fixed.
Right now aircraft spotting is still too difficult, the AI are all over the place, ground control Command routines are a mess. All of this makes SP nearly impossible to enjoy.

I don't mind paying for improvements. I just want to pay for the right improvements.

Right now a new map and new aircraft are right down the bottom of my wish list for CloD.


I agree with you - and I am not SP player, but know that most people coming for CloD actually are old "veterans" that just want play the old& good SP. smile

Fix that basic issues incentive mission makers. And they can prioritize improve the CloD "CAVU" weather to a more "British" one. smile

But the MP players just want more maps (some even don't care about the map be historic) and more "Uber" planes (Fw 190's, etc) - so their "pressure" is more visible.


I'm a 75% online young hipster dood and 25% Offline "Veteran" old geezer smile
I like online for the challenge, offline for the immersion. It's nice to run a proper sortie sometimes, rather than a quick airquake on ATAG.
Like you say with a decent AI and Radio comms, CloD could shine for mission makers and campaign makers, especially with the triggers and scripts that can be built in to the missions. But as it is .....meh!

One thing I did not mention above. That also needs to be fixed and really has bugged me since day one is the way rivers are rendered.
I live in SouthEast London on the border with Kent. I do not live in a swamp like it is depicted in game.
Every river is as wide as the Thames on the map. The place looks like it's been flooded.

I have a few hours flying over Kent in light aircraft, flying out of Rochester and I can assure you it looks nothing like what we see in game. Most of the amazonian rivers we see in game are just small streams that are not even visible from the air.

If I was modding CloD the first thing I'd do is dump the rivers, it's ridiculous at the moment. Always been an immersion killer for me.

#4322910 - 12/24/16 06:31 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Brigstock]  
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Originally Posted By: Steve_F
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Every river is as wide as the Thames on the map. The place looks like it's been flooded.
..

Been fixed by TF already, expect to see non-swamp-England in TF5 (unless they actually throw things like this in when they shoot TF4312 out via steam? would be a nice surprise)

#4323043 - 12/24/16 06:44 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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This is probably the best piece of information for flight sims i heard in past 7 years

#4323050 - 12/24/16 07:01 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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It sounds good. I have a feeling that we may start paying for things, eventually, though. That's fine, I suppose. As long as new airplanes don't cost sixty dollars.


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#4323066 - 12/24/16 07:51 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: theOden]  
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Originally Posted By: theOden
Originally Posted By: Steve_F
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Every river is as wide as the Thames on the map. The place looks like it's been flooded.
..

Been fixed by TF already, expect to see non-swamp-England in TF5 (unless they actually throw things like this in when they shoot TF4312 out via steam? would be a nice surprise)


Just researched that. It was in an update 18 months ago. We have another year to wait for TF5.

I just wish TF would deliver incremental patches to improve the game. Rather than this big bang event they are planning.
I stopped flying CloD online about a year ago and have never bothered with SP. But i do follow the dev and am hoping TF eventually give us something that will draw me back in.

As you mentioned above, the Steam update is reported to include some new stuff. Lets just hope it isn't just bigger explosions and some other minor graphic tweaks.

#4323177 - 12/25/16 06:16 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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I Spitfire Mark 5 and a Bf109F would make me happy for some time. It would bring the game up to the Summer of '41, something I've been wanting to see in this sim for a long time. I'd like to see them give is something like that now instead of having to wait for what Steve calls The Big Bang.


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#4323910 - 12/28/16 06:38 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Why don't all of the people who have negative feelings about this just go and check out the ATAG forum? I just can't see one depressing or upsetting thing about this

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#4323919 - 12/28/16 09:05 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Very good news for 1C and for us !!!


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#4324161 - 12/29/16 02:29 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Hackl]  
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Originally Posted By: Hackl
Why don't all of the people who have negative feelings about this just go and check out the ATAG forum? I just can't see one depressing or upsetting thing about this


I am a member at the ATAG forums. But I dont see what that has to do with any thing I or anyone else posts here.

I dont see anyone posting here with negative feelings about this venture. just genuine questions that need answers.
At the moment I also am not too bothered about new theatres or aircraft. I would just like to see the core game fixed before the move to North Africa.
I hope that now TF have access to the code and 1C's help, this will become an easier task for them.
The one area that needs major improvement IMO would be radio calls ( a MASSIVE bugbear of mine as they have been broken for ages.) as it stands now they are less than useless and a new theatre or new aircraft would also be rendered useless without this being fixed.
There are other areas that need work but I will leave this until the basic things in the game are working as they should.

As I have said I wish TFS all the best in this endevour but please fix the stuff in the original game before moving on.

SD


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#4324222 - 12/29/16 10:31 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Soupdragon has summed up my feelings exactly.
I will be happy to pay for a patch that addresses the many bugs in the game as it stands now.
Make the AI behave, fix radio comms and improve distant aircraft rendering. That will do me for now.

#4324250 - 12/29/16 01:27 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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I agree, fix the core issues first, nobody wants another DCS World.

I got this game in the Friday sales for peanuts, kinda feel guilty how little I paid for such a good game, no problems at all throwing more money in this direction if the core bugs are addressed.


#4324349 - 12/29/16 07:17 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Hi guys, thanks for the positive feedback.

I have read your feedback and the points raised, not sure if any of you see my posts on various forums but I am very aware of how important the AI and Radio Commands are, especially for Mission Builders, and so I fly the flag promoting that this needs addressing.

I can't say too much unfortunately as I am now under the terms of a non disclosure agreement, but I am aware of the issues and hopes/expectations of our awesome community and we, as a team, really will be working hard to address legacy bugs and irritations as-well as the creation of new content.

It won't be a short process but at-least with the source code we will be able to start looking at where all those bugs are hiding and slowly dig them out and smash them with a bloody great hammer! attack

As and when I can I'll be back with more (official yay) updates.

Thanks again for your patience as we transition to a legit team working to make this Flight Sim the best it possibly can be.

Best wishes and a Happy New Year, cheers, MP/TFS


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#4324365 - 12/29/16 08:17 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Thank you Mysticpuma2003 and also to the TFS team. I am looking forward to 2017. wave


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#4324630 - 12/30/16 04:41 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Bit late finding out about this. Congratulations with the acces to the source code! Finally some recognition for the good work you guys are doing. Surprised they did not do it sooner. Jason is right about the cross pollination in the WWII combat sim arena. I basically just buy everything WWII aviation related and give it a try.

Stopped playing BoS pretty quickly because of the unlocking issues. Never got into WT for the same reason. BoS fixed the unlocking and now I've bought BoM and will get BoK when it's released. Reinstalled Il2-1946 and fully modded it's still a blast at 8800x2560. Lots of choices for the WWII simmer.

Fix the core and you'll have a great base to start expanding from. Got the VKB Black Mamba with stick extension and Warthog stick grip. Right on time for all the new sim expansions coming out. Built it and I'll buy it!

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#4324712 - 12/30/16 07:32 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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I have to admit, I didn't even know TF didn't have access to the source code. How the heck did they even do what they did??? These guys are wizards. And just imagining what they can accomplish now is, well the best news ever for WWII flight sims. I will definitely support them.

#4324767 - 12/30/16 10:17 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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It's said that looking at screens like this. smile

http://media-cdn.timesfreepress.com/img/...c6c3f33db10.jpg

#4324901 - 12/31/16 04:26 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Sokol1]  
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Originally Posted By: Sokol1
It's said that looking at screens like this. smile

http://media-cdn.timesfreepress.com/img/...c6c3f33db10.jpg


lol. Funny

#4324958 - 12/31/16 08:44 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Great news!

Not a big mod guy so my CloD has been collecting dust for years. When the mod gets made as an official patch on Steam I'll redownload and start flying again, great news thanks!


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