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#4324088 - 12/28/16 10:02 PM Price of F-5E  
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Just saw the price for the F-5E on Steam. $80.49 CAD

Yea, in your dreams ED.

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#4324097 - 12/28/16 10:39 PM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: rezerekted]  
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In local STEAM is, in local currency equivalent 63.44 U.S. dollars.

Is the only ED module with full price in STEAM, new price police?

Other modules, due STEAM region prices, even without actual sales discount cost less than half of F-5.

#4324111 - 12/28/16 11:23 PM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: rezerekted]  
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that is because it was recently released - so it is to be expected that it would be full price.

and I would pay US$63 as well ...

but no way I would buy it since in case of any Steam related problems, I can't get support for it.

Either at ED or at Steam,

therefore,

the $63 go elsewhere smile

#4324126 - 12/28/16 11:52 PM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: rezerekted]  
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Shows at $59.99 $41.99 in the UK (Steam Incompatible) + $4.99 for the static "campaign", + $34.99 for and unfinished Las Vegas in order to fly the static "campaign".

So...$81.97 to fly the F-5E...I think I'll pass.

#4324128 - 12/28/16 11:58 PM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: rezerekted]  
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I wonder why the Mirage 2000 isn't at Steam - probably copyright reasons.

#4324141 - 12/29/16 01:00 AM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: Tom_Weiss]  
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Originally Posted By: Tom_Weiss
I wonder why the Mirage 2000 isn't at Steam - probably copyright reasons.

Nope, it's because it's still in Beta. Most Devs only release their content on Steam when it's officially released. Also took ages for the Mig21

#4324168 - 12/29/16 03:23 AM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: rezerekted]  
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Well, considering all they are giving us is one plane and a handful of missions I think even $60.00 is too steep of an asking price. No matter, I have all the aircraft I want now and bought them all on sale. Even have a couple I don't want, like the P51 and that half baked Combined Arms. Will only buy new ac now if it is an Apache or maybe F18/F16 and Eurofighter Typhoon. I even have both versions of the A10.

#4324304 - 12/29/16 04:30 PM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: rezerekted]  
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I agree. One might argue that 60 bucks has become "industry standard" price for full fidelity A/C releases nowadays (looking at new planes for FSX/P3D for example), but still...

Fortunately , it seems that ED noticed the meager 20-30% "promos" ain't working. We might never be getting back to 70% ones, but they've been occasionally offering up to 50% in recent months and these are much more reasonable deals, if one's patient enough to wait.

#4324317 - 12/29/16 05:32 PM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: rezerekted]  
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While I could see the price justification to "get into the game," with the release of the "world" for free, I can't see the logic of this price point for just the airframe. Airframe plus a campaign or two, sure. Airframe plus a map, great! But just airframe? With ED's reputation? Nope. Time to wait for a sale!


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I payed 36$ (US) from 59$ (US), I used points for the rest.

#4324374 - 12/29/16 08:41 PM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: rezerekted]  
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You still "paid" for those points, you know that, right?


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#4324407 - 12/29/16 10:58 PM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
You still "paid" for those points, you know that, right?


While you do, in effect, pay for bonus points, if you do take the opportunity to use them then you are still saving money over the total you would have paid without them.

I am not a huge fan of the bonus program's implementation but a discount is a discount.


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I've not done the math for a while so I could be wrong but the last time I checked:
1. You only get bonus points if you buy a module on full price. Buying a module on sale does not give bonus points.
2. You can only use X amount of points depending on the sale.

The last discussion I remember was that buying modules 1, 2, and 3 on full price then using ALL bonus points to buy module 4 still turned out more expensive than buying modules 1-4 on a proper sale. Maybe this was done when ED was still doing deep discounts? Maybe this was done when ED still limited the use of bonus points? Someone needs to do the math again for todays rules and sales discounts.

Then there's the issue of bonus points "expiring" after a year or so...


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#4324416 - 12/29/16 11:51 PM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: rezerekted]  
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I was thinking about buying the F5 , moderately interested in it ( kinda semi, not fully hard)

.....

But I noticed that there is not even a campaign with the aircraft when you buy it (not cool)

SO if it goes to maybe $20 I will buy it other wise no chance

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#4324421 - 12/30/16 12:09 AM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
I've not done the math for a while so I could be wrong but the last time I checked:
1. You only get bonus points if you buy a module on full price. Buying a module on sale does not give bonus points.
2. You can only use X amount of points depending on the sale.

The last discussion I remember was that buying modules 1, 2, and 3 on full price then using ALL bonus points to buy module 4 still turned out more expensive than buying modules 1-4 on a proper sale. Maybe this was done when ED was still doing deep discounts? Maybe this was done when ED still limited the use of bonus points? Someone needs to do the math again for todays rules and sales discounts.

Then there's the issue of bonus points "expiring" after a year or so...


The expiration issue is your most valid complaint. The rest is entirely dependant on your level of 'It's new and I want it now'. As I said, a discount is a discount. You can not compare it to sale prices.

I spent a bit of time, as a side job/hobby, managing a pet store for a major chain. Many coupons could not be applied to items that were on sale. Your choice was to either buy on sale or use the coupon on the full price item.

There were always people that did not like these rules. However, the company could have decided not to ever provide coupons of any sort and leave the buyer at the mercy of sales, which are never announce beforehand.

I honestly believe that ED would have been better off if the had never introduced the bonus program in the first place. It would have avoided conversations like this and there certainly would have been no complaints. When I go to the grocery store, $134 today, FWIW, I don't expect a discount later because I bought some bananas at full price today. Tbh, the sales where something is priced at, for example, 4 for $10, but you have to buy four (I don't want four), is far more offensive than any aspect of ED's bonus program.

When I want to purchase something, I assess the cost compared to how much I need the item and then I either buy it, or don't.

To complain, and I have in the past, about a bonus program that is a voluntary offering from the vendor just ceases to make sense after a certain point.


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ours has become quite an expensive hobby over the years, if you include the hardware needed , even more so.

just to get 5 modules I don't right now own : $48+$40+$41+$36+$25 + 5% tax I would end up paying ... US$200

and on top of that I pay US$150 for a yearly Photoshop license ... expensive hobby indeed smile

#4324437 - 12/30/16 01:10 AM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: rezerekted]  
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Tom,

PM me. Your box is full.


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Well, ED decided to offer it so now we can comment on it.

As for "points expiring" being the only valid complaint, I beg to differ. The whole idea of this "points system," as can be said for the coupon system, is to encourage the customer to spend more in the store. So the other complaint now is whether ED has something that you think is worth buying. I had taken a "wait and see" approach with my points so in effect, they were moot. Do note that I had purchased my modules (DCS A10C, BS2, FC3) well before ED brought about the points system so I was initially pleased at their gesture, then annoyed at the fact that there was a time limit. Meh. I've no interest in buying what's on offer now anyway, discount or no discount.


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#4324444 - 12/30/16 01:23 AM Re: Price of F-5E [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
Meh. I've no interest in buying what's on offer now anyway, discount or no discount.


No offense intended, but from my perspective, if you have no interest in purchasing the product, then complaining about the discount system is like someone who doesn't like ice cream complaining about the prices at Baskin-Robbins.

I do, however, respect your right to your opinions, regardless of what I think of them.

EDIT: I will point out that you are not the only one in on the ground floor. I don't recall what I owned when the bonus system started but I can safely say that if it was released, in any purchasable form, I owned it. I suspect I have had more points expire than I have spent. Store coupons expire as well, which is why I don't keep them. By the time I decide to use them, they have usually expired.

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Way over priced modules, it's not that I can't afford them, they're just not worth it, FA18 & Straits of Hormuz is all I'd consider and going by past experience with ED, that could literally take years to arrive.

Keep your bonus points...50% sales only.

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