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#4322286 - 12/22/16 02:39 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Wow. All I wanted, when I started flying this sim, was a Spitfire 5. And now so much more is coming. I'm a happy camper, too. Hope it's not too long.


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#4322304 - 12/22/16 04:24 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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I think this is the best thing to happen to the genre since BoS...

Things look good for virtual prop jocks.. You have BoS, It would appear that DCS is finally coming around.. and now this. Regardless to what has been said in the past in my opinion TF getting the source coder and a full green light.. changes things in a good way that will only benefit simmers.


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#4322306 - 12/22/16 04:33 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Congratulations to all involved and let us cross fingers. I will certainly support both CloD and BoS. thumbsup And more. smile


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#4322350 - 12/22/16 12:39 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Thanks for the positivity guys....we're excited for the future smile

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#4322352 - 12/22/16 12:48 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Pooch]  
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Originally Posted By: Pooch
Wow. All I wanted, when I started flying this sim, was a Spitfire 5.


BoK will have Vb... be fun to compare biggrin

#4322365 - 12/22/16 01:39 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Hmph. So 1C is expecting an improvement (by an unspecified amount) in the size of the customer base by Q2 2018 then?

I don't see why that's not achievable. I also don't say it's guaranteed one way or the other. Simmers can be a fickle bunch.

Solid steps have been taken to repair the damage done. We'll see how many people are swayed by it. Myself, I finally bought BoM. I did not preorder BoK, however. So I would say I'm on the road to return, but I have not made it there yet.



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#4322401 - 12/22/16 03:25 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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#4322405 - 12/22/16 03:29 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Great news

#4322448 - 12/22/16 05:48 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Amazing! Great work guys you certainly deserve all the positive things happening after all your hard work.


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#4322453 - 12/22/16 05:55 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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I am excited by this news!


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#4322494 - 12/22/16 08:07 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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VR support now its DX11 capable?


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#4322546 - 12/22/16 11:27 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Man this is great news!
The best flight sim news in years as far as i am concerned.
I love Cliffs w/TF mods and now that it has a future I am stoked!

That VKB HOTAS gear is on my list now!

#4322554 - 12/23/16 12:03 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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OK. I'll be the bad guy here.
How much can we expect to pay for the North Africa map and future aircraft now the 1C are involved and a wanting some finacial return for granting TF access to the source code and other tools? Im sure they are not doing this out of the kindness of their heart.

I think it is a fantastic thing for Cliffs, TF and flightSiming in general.
But I find once money gets involved and people start demanding their pound of flesh things generally tend to start revoloving around the plughole.

With that said, I sincerly hope I am wrong in this case as I love CLOD and have done since it was released. I wish TF Simulations all success and hope the the new Cliffs of Dover takes off and flies true (pun intended).

I am really looking forward to flying Cliffs of Dover as it should have been when it was released.

PS can you put radio calls somewhere at teh top of you fix list please smile

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#4322558 - 12/23/16 12:31 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Yes, Tobruk map will be released as payware - probable in end of 2017 since they will need finish P-40 first - or maybe import from BoM.

More soon will be updated STEAM install for 4.312 - so easy the users life, and after will be released a new revised installation of CloD with DX11 support and all TF fixes incorporated to the code - actually they need workarounds for work.

I like the idea to have option for buy something from the guys. smile

Team Fusion Simulations will be tied to 1C.






#4322599 - 12/23/16 04:44 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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I may be in the minority here, but I don't care for a new map or aircraft.
All I want is the many limitations in CloD fixed.
Right now aircraft spotting is still too difficult, the AI are all over the place, ground control Command routines are a mess. All of this makes SP nearly impossible to enjoy.

I don't mind paying for improvements. I just want to pay for the right improvements.

Right now a new map and new aircraft are right down the bottom of my wish list for CloD.

#4322604 - 12/23/16 05:46 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Well, access to source code is exactly what was needed to tackle the AI issues, so these news are a significant step towards that. I had given up hope on an AI fix before but everything is possible again. And VR support will become a lot simpler too, which would be my dream for CloD.

#4322605 - 12/23/16 06:20 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: the soupdragon]  
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Originally Posted By: the soupdragon
OK. I'll be the bad guy here.
How much can we expect to pay for the North Africa map and future aircraft now the 1C are involved and a wanting some finacial return for granting TF access to the source code and other tools? Im sure they are not doing this out of the kindness of their heart.


I think it is a fantastic thing for Cliffs, TF and flightSiming in general.
But I find once money gets involved and people start demanding their pound of flesh things generally tend to start revoloving around the plughole.

With that said, I sincerly hope I am wrong in this case as I love CLOD and have done since it was released. I wish TF Simulations all success and hope the the new Cliffs of Dover takes off and flies true (pun intended).

I am really looking forward to flying Cliffs of Dover as it should have been when it was released.

PS can you put radio calls somewhere at teh top of you fix list please smile

SD

That was the one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind too. Calling it an addon instead of a Campaign might give some clues to expected pricing??? They just released the "Ten Days of Autumn" Campaign for IL-2 BOS for just under $10.00 US and Addons typically have cost more. Even so if they continue to improve the game the price for an "addon" will most likely not keep me from buying it.


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#4322611 - 12/23/16 08:08 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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According to Buzzsaw over at the BOS forum - "1C is not investing any money in TF... we are an independent... we have to stand or fall on our own two feet. What 1C gains is revenue from the new products TF releases" - I would take this to mean it's up to TF to decide pricing for their work and pay 1c whatever cut they've agreed on.

#4322621 - 12/23/16 10:45 AM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Mysticpuma2003]  
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Not how I see it, Cliffs is still the intellectual property of 1C so the revenue will probably go to them first and in principle an agreed cut goes to Team Fusion, furthermore none of 1CGS revenue for BoS/BoM/BoK go toward funding Cliffs development.

#4322740 - 12/23/16 05:39 PM Re: Team Fusion and 1C Games sign Agreement in Principle - Dec 21st 2016 [Re: Brigstock]  
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Originally Posted By: Steve_F
I may be in the minority here, but I don't care for a new map or aircraft.
All I want is the many limitations in CloD fixed.
Right now aircraft spotting is still too difficult, the AI are all over the place, ground control Command routines are a mess. All of this makes SP nearly impossible to enjoy.

I don't mind paying for improvements. I just want to pay for the right improvements.

Right now a new map and new aircraft are right down the bottom of my wish list for CloD.


I share your concerns. Without addressing AI any benefits derived from new maps and aircraft will prove fleeting unless online players are the only real target audience. I hope that TFS will "level" with us once they have access to source code. For all we know there may not be a functional AI module included in source code. If that is the case it is best that the community be apprised of such a reality as early as possible o/w there will be more disappointed community members. A functioning BoB sim is what I am after, not a new theater for a broken or grievously underdeveloped BoB sim.

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