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#4322131 - 12/21/16 05:24 PM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna
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I would like to see Mongol Invasion also maybe a later DLC


Isn't that called Total War Attila?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/325610/


Well, the Huns were different from the Mongols in many ways and Attila does not have Japan in its playable strategic map area. You're also talking about two different time periods that are about 800 years apart.

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#4322136 - 12/21/16 05:34 PM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna
Originally Posted By: rwatson
I would like to see Mongol Invasion also maybe a later DLC


Isn't that called Total War Attila?

http://store.steampowered.com/app/325610/


Well, the Huns were different from the Mongols in many ways and Attila does not have Japan in its playable strategic map area. You're also talking about two different time periods that are about 800 years apart.



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#4322152 - 12/21/16 06:09 PM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Fot me it`s currently Tomb Raider.

I really hate these "cutscenes" where you hectically have to click th mouse, or hit the keys on the right micro-second.

Currently stuck in this cutscene, where you are flying a para-glider through a forest. Can`t tell how many times I died.

Would love to see the game with all settings ramped up on my new system.

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#4322163 - 12/21/16 06:33 PM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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I understand kilosierra. I love the new Tomb Raider reboots but the first one especially has some bad QTE moments. Its altogether not as bad as some folks made it out to be. Overall there isn't that many. I'm struggling with Tom Clancy's Future Soldier and I'm telling you that has some reaaaaally badly implemented QTEs. I can't get through the freaking third mission because of one.

I play games using both m&k and a wireless Xbox 360 controller. I have a feeling if you were able to play the game with a controller even if for just that sequence you could get passed it no problem. Sometimes that happens. Some gimmicky game play conventions that aren't very good to begin with translate poorly to PC controls sometimes. Try playing that mission with a controller and see if you can get passed it.

#4322168 - 12/21/16 06:59 PM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Use a controller on any Tomb Raider game.


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#4322186 - 12/21/16 08:15 PM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Tomb Raider lost my interest due to the platformer feel to it. I know it's supposed to be that kind of game, but it just got old.
I don't mind QTE's unless it's strict about the timing. Ryse is packed with them for your executions, but it's not necessary if you screw them up. Shadow of Mordor had some too, but not that bad.
I don't remember it in GRFS, what part is that in?


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#4322187 - 12/21/16 08:18 PM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Yeah, those QTEs where they put a sliver of interactivity into what is essentially a cutscene always frustrate me.

I feel little accomplishment, might as well just make it a cutscene and be done with it.



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#4322290 - 12/22/16 02:46 AM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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#4322324 - 12/22/16 09:32 AM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Actually I thought of a better one. FarCry 4. I can not get into it. I've tried. I love the setting but I just can't get there. I have exactly ten hours in it. I recently installed it again to give it another try. I made it to the part where you crash in the jeep and you are on your own for the first time. I was bored. Now I've gotten far enough into the game's missions a couple of years ago but I get so bored with it. I can't put my finger on. There is something about it that is just so tedious about it that drives me nuts. I like long games and crafting and leveling up but something isn't right with this one. The main character is less annoying than FarCry3(which I didn't finish either) but there is something about it that zaps the enjoyment out of it for me after only about a half hour. Perhaps part of it is the story that isn't drawing me in as well as some of the other weird things Ubisoft is known for. I want another story like FarCry 1, with an Island of Dr. Moreau type of theme and full of better characters. So many games do characters right but Ubisoft consistently writes as though no one over 25 works there. Absolute rubbish. I wish Crytek still drove the Farcry bus. I liked the original FarCry better than their Crysis 2&3.

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Originally Posted By: Coot
Actually I thought of a better one. FarCry 4. I can not get into it. I've tried. I love the setting but I just can't get there.


Have you considered a mod? I recently played through FC3 again with Ziggy's Mod on Hardcore, put 30 hours in without touching the campaign and had a blast. I can truly say that it is a different game with the mod.

Have a browse on nexus or moddb and see if you can make it your own.

#4322327 - 12/22/16 09:49 AM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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My whale is Dead Island. I've played 5 hours, and everything from the opening track to the mechanics (even modded for more realism) just bugs me. It's off the HDD, but every now and then I take another look at youtube to see if I'm ready, but nope.

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Originally Posted By: tagTaken2
My whale is Dead Island. I've played 5 hours, and everything from the opening track to the mechanics (even modded for more realism) just bugs me. It's off the HDD, but every now and then I take another look at youtube to see if I'm ready, but nope.

I played it in cooperative mode and it was a lot of fun. I would have been bored as well playing it in single player mode.


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#4322383 - 12/22/16 02:19 PM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Many of those games that have coop are really blah in single player.

Dead Island, Dead Rising, Borderlands 1 and 2...

However, Far Cry 4 I did play through both in SP and coop and I found it fine. However, I also finished FC3 and aside from changes to the plot and the main character, they're really the same game in different locations.

If you didn't care for FC3, and that wasn't solely because of the whiny protagonist, FC4 is not an improvement.

I will get FC Primal some day on a cheap sale, as without coop I'm far less interested and not going to pay close to full price.



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#4322387 - 12/22/16 02:38 PM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Jedi Master]  
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Originally Posted By: Jedi Master

If you didn't care for FC3, and that wasn't solely because of the whiny protagonist, FC4 is not an improvement.


That was really the main drawback of both games. How I wished for a "mute" option for the main character. FC3 was a lot worse, because you also had to deal with the main character's brodude fratboy douchebag friends (BTW, how does one call the female equivalent of a douchebag fratboy? Douchebaguette sorogirl?).

I guess I am firmly out of Ubisoft's target audience range regarding the Far Cry franchise. reading wink


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#4322391 - 12/22/16 02:47 PM Re: What is you gaming "White Whale"? [Re: Bib4Tuna]  
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Far Cry (and specially Far Cry 3) do not use the character and story elements lightly. They were intentional and forced to elicit an emotional response on the player, not to appeal to a demographic group. The use of cliches, stereotypes and unlikable characters were used as satire elements - from action movies and games.

They were pretty aware on how whiny Jason came across at the start of the game - just to make his transformation on a killer more poignant.

And how equally douchey his friends are, and end up meaning so little to him in the end.

Anyway, this is a good read on the subject by the game's author:

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/12/19/far-cry-3s-jeffrey-yohalem-on-racism-torture-and-satire/


Oh...and don't tell me you did not notice all the satire and comedy in the original Far Cry. It is basically a spoof of any number of 80's B action films.


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Regardless of the reason - satire, in this case - the result was, IMO, still rather annoying and mood-breaking.

Satire is not always appropriate, appreciated by everyone and should not serve as a discussion-stopping argument to "get away with murder", figuratively speaking. wink It may be an explanation, but not an absolution. smile

For me, the highlights of the game were definitely outside of the main story.

The original Far Cry did it much better. Again, IMO.


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Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna
Far Cry (and specially Far Cry 3) do not use the character and story elements lightly. They were intentional and forced to elicit an emotional response on the player, not to appeal to a demographic group. The use of cliches, stereotypes and unlikable characters were used as satire elements - from action movies and games.

They were pretty aware on how whiny Jason came across at the start of the game - just to make his transformation on a killer more poignant.

And how equally douchey his friends are, and end up meaning so little to him in the end.



That's a good perspective on it. How many tv shows, movies, games use the bit about how they attacked the wrong guy, he's an ex-SEAL, highly decorated and better at everything than anyone else on the planet, only matched by the last opponent he faces. But he's STILL better.
There must be more retired SEAL's in tv/movies/games than were ever in service. LOL


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Put me down as another vote "for" DCS, for all the reasons previously listed.


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After reading this thread, I uninstalled DCS. I realized today I'm just not going to play it.


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My feeling is that most of the people who fly DCS World are playing it online with a small group of friends or they are part of an online squadron. Whenever I go to the multiplayer browser I usually see a pretty long list of servers and many of them are full. I think this is the case because playing DCS World in single player is indeed dull and lifeless most of the time.


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