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#4317580 - 12/05/16 10:05 PM California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives  
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Been shopping again for pocket knives for my Dad and myself. I am starting to get a little collection going, nothing high end. It seems that almost every knife I look at now has a yellow label on it stating that this product can expose you to chemicals known to the State of California to cause Cancer. Not exactly the kind of gift one wants to give or receive. My google searches show that most people aren't taking the warning very seriously. Have any of you guys come across this, what are your thoughts?

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#4317593 - 12/05/16 10:59 PM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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Well, they put that warning in restaurants who serve alcohol and stuff, so I think it's pretty meaningless. I haven't seen anyone walk up to a restaurant, see the sign, and then turn around.

This link provides some good insight:
http://www.calrest.org/a-guide-to-californiarsquos-proposition-65.html

And of particular interest, I think:

Substances are added to the list regularly. When the federal Environmental Protection Agency lists a new substance as a possible cause of cancer in laboratory animals, that substance is added to the Proposition 65 list. The fact that there is no evidence of human carcinogenicity does not stop OEHHA from listing it. When the Legislature or the Department of Labor requires information for employees who use a substance in their jobs, that substance is added to the list.

The fact that it is dangerous only to people who are exposed to large amounts does not stop OEHHA from listing it. Although the listing decisions are reviewed by scientists appointed to Advisory Panels by the governor, the Proposition 65 rules do not allow the scientists to consider whether there is any real danger from the substance, when they are deciding whether to list it.


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#4317627 - 12/06/16 01:38 AM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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In California I have seen baby changing shelves inside of a gas station restroom with BRAILLE INSTRUCTIONS on the thing.

Because you never know when a blind person might need to change a baby diaper in a gas station restroom.

Sigh.....

I love my state, and have no intent of ever leaving it, but even I have to admit sometimes things go a little too far around here...

I'd personally ignore the warnings on the knives in question, but I could see where as a gift item that could be a bit awkward...

#4317648 - 12/06/16 03:46 AM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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There's also, at least in the SF Bay area, virtually no public building without that cancer substance warning sign. I find that particularly amusing on courthouses - what are you going to do? Walk away from your court date?

#4317660 - 12/06/16 05:19 AM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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Everything in California causes cancer or reproductive harm.

Yes... Many substances to make well everything have bad things in them if you eat them. The labels don't tell you its fine if you keep it outside your body. Its a bit hmmm, overboard.

#4317679 - 12/06/16 07:45 AM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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This overcautiousness devalues warning labels in general. If everything is "dangerous" you can no longer recognize what REALLY is. But I guess that discussing this in depth would quickly turn this thread into PWEC material.

#4317684 - 12/06/16 09:05 AM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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I just thought of something. California olive oil does not get the label. BUT...if you use olive oil at high heat it releases carcinogens that can also give you cancer. Used at no or low/mid heat its totally fine. So where is the label?

#4317691 - 12/06/16 10:34 AM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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Every time I see that label I figure I'll be ok because I'm m not in California. biggrin


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#4317748 - 12/06/16 03:07 PM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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Good old boy who cried wolf scenario.
When CA tells you there are wolves in everything from diapers to donuts to doggie bags, who will take it seriously anymore?



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#4317778 - 12/06/16 04:20 PM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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Nobody (I know) takes any of those warning serious in any way because it's very clear that practically all of it is just cover-your-ass crap courtesy of our wonderfully productive overpopulation of lawyers.

And It's not just CA, even though we certainly go the extra mile.
Have you lately looked at the warnings on a latter? It's a killing machine.

Here's another nice one: Prevent baby suicide, don't leave bucket-deathtraps in plain view!


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Wasn't California supposed to be the new Atlantis by now?


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#4317796 - 12/06/16 05:10 PM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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Let's put it this way; when I was a kid I saw a picture of California's state flag in an issue of Guns and Ammo magazine and thought it was satire.

Then I moved there and it blew my mind when I saw that "No, wait, that really is their flag!"


#4317810 - 12/06/16 05:33 PM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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The sun can cause cancer. Crap. Better not walk outside.
But sleeping too much on one side can cause cancer too. Oh no! Well, there goes sleep.
But wait... not sleeping can cause cancer as well! Damn! I guess we're screwed.

Better buy that pocketknife to be safe. At least then you can use it to make neat carvings out of wood for people to remember you by, someday after you're long gone. thumbsup

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#4317823 - 12/06/16 05:51 PM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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So they warn you about a chemical that might be on the blade, but not how to safely handle the blade itself?


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#4317843 - 12/06/16 06:29 PM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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That warning has got to be hurting sales for pocket knives.

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#4317867 - 12/06/16 07:48 PM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: Mr_Blastman]  
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Originally Posted By: Mr_Blastman
The sun can cause cancer. Crap. Better not walk outside.


The fun thing with that is that practically all sunscreen contains oxybenzone - which can - you guessed it - cause skin cancer.

Also, too little sun exposure makes you more likely to be vitamin D deficient. A vitamin D deficiency makes you more likely to develop all kinds of cancer.

#4317877 - 12/06/16 08:20 PM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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Warning knife blade may cause death if ingested.

Warning knife contains materials that are known to be deadly to laboratory mice.

Warning do not breath knife or knife byproducts. Breathing knife may cause death.

#4317879 - 12/06/16 08:31 PM Re: California Proposition 65 Warning on pocket knives [Re: LB4LB]  
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When I'm being attacked by a knife wielding nut, the last thing I would be thinking is, "Would I get cancer from this?"

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