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#4175705 - 10/01/15 04:33 AM The Revenant The 1820s in America look NASTY!  
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I guess this story is related to a frontiersman named Hugh Glass ...


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#4175713 - 10/01/15 05:05 AM Re: The Revenant The 1820s in America look NASTY! [Re: Linebacker]  
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Looks like it could be interesting.

#4175760 - 10/01/15 10:14 AM Re: The Revenant The 1820s in America look NASTY! [Re: Linebacker]  
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Sounds somewhat similar to a movie from the 70's called 'Man in the Wilderness' with Richard Harris. He gets attacked by a bear and his friends figure he will probably die, so they leave him. The movie is about him trying to survive and get revenge.

#4175769 - 10/01/15 10:42 AM Re: The Revenant The 1820s in America look NASTY! [Re: Linebacker]  
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Wasn't that also the basis behind "Jeremiah Johnson?" Supposedly the real-life inspiration was attacked by a grizzly while a member of an exploring party, and was left for dead. He ended up surviving and sought revenge on the other party members for leaving him.


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#4175842 - 10/01/15 02:30 PM Re: The Revenant The 1820s in America look NASTY! [Re: Linebacker]  
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I thought this was the revenant?





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#4175911 - 10/01/15 04:41 PM Re: The Revenant The 1820s in America look NASTY! [Re: Linebacker]  
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The Harris movie was based on a true story.

Jeremiah Johnson was also true I believe, but it was just a story of what he went through. I don't believe the two had anything in common.

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Jeremiah Johnson was "very loosely" based on a mountain man nicknamed "Liver eating" Johnson. Nothing in the movie is true. This movie is based on the story of another mountain man, Hugh Glass, who was attacked by a bear and lived, then went hunting for the two people who were to stay with him until he died but abandoned him. As usual, Hollywood will take a great story and screw it up. But, the movie might be intertaining.


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#4311399 - 11/12/16 08:12 AM Re: The Revenant The 1820s in America look NASTY! [Re: Linebacker]  
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So I watched this yesterday and must say I'm dissapointed.
The acting and story was fine enough I guess but there was a dumb #%&*$# thing about it that only a Californiann script writer would put in there.
I can take many things like that he'd most likely die from massive infections in his wounds ( but they were hardy men after all, so it's possible to survive I guess).
And I might have missed other things due to being tired when I watched it, like where Tom Hardy found two horses so they could get to the fort.
But there is this one thing I can't overlook cause it's so glaringly stupid considering the setting and people involved.
This is all about trappers, scouts and indians who by all account lives for weeks and months far away from civilization, which at the time wasn't that civilized anyway..
So one would assume they all should be well versed in how to survive in the wildernesse.
This means that they must know rule number one in surviving in a sub-arctic climate during winter.
(I'm not much of an outdoors man myself, but when you live up here you know this.)
DON'T GET WET!!!
But there's no puddle, creek, brook, lake or river small enough for them to not seek it out and splash around in it.
If the infection didn't kill him, hypothermia certainly would ( along with most of the others too).

By the way. If you want to know how cold water affects you, put a bucket of water in the fridge over night and then fill it up with ice cubes and dunk you hands in it for a few minutes.
Tough it out as long as you can, until the pain starts going away and your hands go numb. wink
Now pull them up and try to start a fire with flint and steel.
Imagine that feeling over your whole body, and be grateful you didn't just spend 10-15 minutes grabbing on to a log in a freezing cold river.
Cause you'd be dead. smile

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#4311554 - 11/12/16 08:49 PM Re: The Revenant The 1820s in America look NASTY! [Re: Linebacker]  
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^ agree

I read that Leo suffered through this work and exposure to the cold. Not to say he didn't but thought he must be wearing a wet suit under those furs.

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Agree with Immermann's analysis. There is no fricking way that Leo should have survived that mauling by the bear and the subsequent exposure to cold.


I mean, this film is supposedly based on the real life of some guy who went through similar things but I have a feeling that Leo's experience was intensified for story-telling purposes.


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They should have gone with a title in the style of "Dances with Wolves" -

"Has Rough Sex with Bears"

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Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna

They should have gone with a title in the style of "Dances with Wolves" -

"Has Rough Sex with Bears"




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNdAPWBBW3Y

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#4312143 - 11/15/16 01:02 AM Re: The Revenant The 1820s in America look NASTY! [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Agree with Immermann's analysis. There is no fricking way that Leo should have survived that mauling by the bear and the subsequent exposure to cold.


I mean, this film is supposedly based on the real life of some guy who went through similar things but I have a feeling that Leo's experience was intensified for story-telling purposes.


Perhaps not as much as you think:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Glass


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Yes, but did he make concerted attempts to keep himself drier?



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I was a little disappointed that the movie failed to mention that he changed his name from Jazz to Glass.
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#4312518 - 11/16/16 03:16 AM Re: The Revenant The 1820s in America look NASTY! [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted By: MarkG
Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna

They should have gone with a title in the style of "Dances with Wolves" -

"Has Rough Sex with Bears"




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNdAPWBBW3Y

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Originally Posted By: Immermann

DON'T GET WET!!!
But there's no puddle, creek, brook, lake or river small enough for them to not seek it out and splash around in it.
If the infection didn't kill him, hypothermia certainly would ( along with most of the others too).


As an eagle scout, I agree. Number one thing you don't do when out in the wild alone is get wet, especially when it is cold. I was cringing every time he got in the water.

Aside from that I enjoyed the movie immensely. I thought it was a Terrence Malick movie until I looked it up on IMDB and was surprised to learn the Birdman guy directed it. Birdman was awesome, by the way.

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