#4311117 - 11/11/16 03:12 PM
Weekend news announcement
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Some highlights: * 1.5.5 moves to stable with a number of fixes - there may be some Mirage/Gazelle things missing from the changelog * 2.5 beta is pushed back for reasons explained in the post - mainly a shift of priorities to complete Nevada and Normandy first * Hornet early access is pushed back for reasons explained in the post - mainly additional systems complexity as more information is discovered https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2948302&postcount=57
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#4311133 - 11/11/16 04:02 PM
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Slip sliding away. Slip sliding awayyyayyy.
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#4311138 - 11/11/16 04:13 PM
Re: Weekend news announcement
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the line.
and it will take more time than first estimated. and it will take more time than first estimated. and it will take more time than first estimated. and it will take more time than first estimated.
estimated , like when they rolled a 20 sided dice and settled on the number that came up 16 ..... "yeah that looks good we will go with 2016" , lols
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#4311144 - 11/11/16 04:31 PM
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There's never a lack of negativity around here SERIOUSLY!! It seems some people around here don't even know what DAY it is! Everybody seems to have forgotten what November 11th truly means. There are huge problems going on in the world right now and some people would rather spend all their time and effort complaining about how they misspent $100! While you're complaining about what somebody did to your shrub other entities are stealing your whole Forest! People need to get some perspective...
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#4311149 - 11/11/16 04:42 PM
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hmmm November 11th , you mean Remembrance Day ?
Not sure what that has to do with DCS World 2.5 being delayed , but I will bite
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#4311164 - 11/11/16 05:27 PM
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Is that a joke? Otherwise i really cannot understand how a game with a extremely scripted damage system can become a ww2 study sim. Good flight model simulator, but not even close ww2 battle simulator. WW2 dogfights where about deliver the proper hit to specific airframe with the proper ammo...a mile away from current gaming overall hitpoints system. I would consider CLOD a much more realistic ww2 than dcs even with its limited flight model
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#4311198 - 11/11/16 06:32 PM
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Is that a joke? Otherwise i really cannot understand how a game with a extremely scripted damage system can become a ww2 study sim. Good flight model simulator, but not even close ww2 battle simulator. WW2 dogfights where about deliver the proper hit to specific airframe with the proper ammo...a mile away from current gaming overall hitpoints system. I would consider CLOD a much more realistic ww2 than dcs even with its limited flight model A new damage system for WW2 planes (and presumably everything else in due time) is in development and will be released together with the Spitfire or some time thereafter. Link to ED forums were the new DM is discussed: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=170625
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#4311231 - 11/11/16 07:38 PM
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I'm not sure delays to 2.5 and the Hornet could be considered a 'highlight' either. Like I said, "if stuff is delayed a few years, what's a few months more?" seems to be the prevailing logic there. There's never a lack of negativity around here - if I could only apply it to my bills Please enlighten us how to view "we told you it's coming out in 2016, but it's not anymore" as a positive. I'm listening. They're working on 2.5, but suddenly Nevada and Normandy gets priority? Please tell me how to view that as a positive? SERIOUSLY!!
It seems some people around here don't even know what DAY it is! Everybody seems to have forgotten what November 11th truly means. Sure, it's Remembrance day. But what does that have to do in a flight simulator forum discussion? Do you think we're spitting on the graves of the dead by talking about this topic in a negative way? There are huge problems going on in the world right now and some people would rather spend all their time and effort complaining about how they misspent $100! While you're complaining about what somebody did to your shrub other entities are stealing your whole Forest!
People need to get some perspective... Just because someone else's problems are bigger than ours does not make our problems go away. Again, a flight simulator forum is not the place to complain about "other entities stealing your whole forest". You need to know where you're posting and what topic is being discussed. Normandy map and WW2 AI units will finally transform DCS into a true WW2 study sim. Please do not count your chickens before the eggs have hatched.
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#4311241 - 11/11/16 08:03 PM
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Please enlighten us how to view "we told you it's coming out in 2016, but it's not anymore" as a positive. I'm listening.
They're working on 2.5, but suddenly Nevada and Normandy gets priority? Please tell me how to view that as a positive? Why wouldn't it be? Or at worst, it's neutral. Some of us are indeed waiting for those very improvements to Nevada that will allow us to run even more authentic Red Flag scenarios/campaigns. As for your first sentence, you're demonstrating negativity right now.
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#4311253 - 11/11/16 08:29 PM
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Why wouldn't it be? Or at worst, it's neutral. Some of us are indeed waiting for those very improvements to Nevada that will allow us to run even more authentic Red Flag scenarios/campaigns. So why are you complaining about the negativity that arises from a negative message?
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#4311263 - 11/11/16 09:05 PM
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The message isn't negative, you are. Like seriously, if you walked anywhere near an MRI machine, you'd become stuck to it I know you called it, everyone called it - in case you haven't noticed, it's just a flat out tradition with ED for things to be pushed back. You have literally done zero, zilch, zip, squat and nada out of the ordinary - you've been beating a dead horse, and that's what's negative - you just can't stop yourself. You're going to get tennis elbow At least make some BBQ instead. Let's recap, shall we? - There are a whole bunch of fixes in 1.5.5, and a lot of tweaks. There are some new features as well. - You asked (or at least some people asked) that ED communicate when things get pushed back and/or priorities change. Well, they just did, officially. - Work is proceeding on Nevada and Normandy, which is something a lot of people are looking forward to. - The hornet's being worked on, and as I recall Wags pretty much said 'more news around this time'. This is the news, it's taking longer than they expected but work is proceeding.
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#4311269 - 11/11/16 09:23 PM
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For a genuine non-complaining question:
If NTTR and Normandy are dependent on 2.5, why prioritize them ahead of it when we won't be able to see them? Or is the idea that until they are finished there is little reason to release 2.5?
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#4311271 - 11/11/16 09:41 PM
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For a genuine non-complaining question:
If NTTR and Normandy are dependent on 2.5, why prioritize them ahead of it when we won't be able to see them? Or is the idea that until they are finished there is little reason to release 2.5?
The Jedi Master Exactly.......why would the priority of a dependency now be the focus?....ah - the spit and Normandy generate funds whereas 2.5 doesn't. So even though a major bug could still be identified in the core engine they're going to finish off a couple of maps first which could easily require rework. Perfect logic.
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#4311272 - 11/11/16 09:42 PM
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For a genuine non-complaining question:
If NTTR and Normandy are dependent on 2.5, why prioritize them ahead of it when we won't be able to see them? Or is the idea that until they are finished there is little reason to release 2.5?
The Jedi Master NTTR and Normandy arent Dependent on 2.5 2.0 Can handle Multiple Terrains, 1.5 Cannot 2.5 Brings A bunch of stuff Free Caucas, and most noticeable will be P.B.R and Adjustments to Shaders/Lighting.
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