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#4300176 - 10/02/16 02:58 AM CH Mach I+  
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Probable their fist PC joystick.

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#4300180 - 10/02/16 03:35 AM Re: CH Mach I+ [Re: Sokol1]  
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They had a Mach 1 (no plus)



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#4300184 - 10/02/16 03:41 AM Re: CH Mach I+ [Re: Sokol1]  
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They also had this for the Apple IIe, etc.


#4300200 - 10/02/16 05:13 AM Re: CH Mach I+ [Re: Sokol1]  
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Would love to see inside one, it looks like they still use the same gimbals architecture as Mach I(+) :p

#4300214 - 10/02/16 08:28 AM Re: CH Mach I+ [Re: Sokol1]  
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And Mach I+ gimbal looks the same mechanism used today, only this switch(?) ahead mechanical trim is different. smile

Apple version looks more R/C gimbal.

#4300234 - 10/02/16 11:46 AM Re: CH Mach I+ [Re: Sokol1]  
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Originally Posted By: Sokol1
And Mach I+ gimbal looks the same mechanism used today, only this switch(?) ahead mechanical trim is different. smile

Apple version looks more R/C gimbal.


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#4300408 - 10/03/16 02:34 AM Re: CH Mach I+ [Re: Sokol1]  
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That Apple II stick looks more like the PC stick I started out with gimbal-wise, only I'm pretty sure it was actually this one Kraft joystick model I keep seeing on eBay here and there. Buttons on opposite corners as well as atop the grip.

That was decades ago, though, so I can't remember for sure.

What's with the 7-pin DIN on that Mach I pictured above, though? That's no IBM PC joystick, and it certainly isn't any other joystick interface I know of!

#4300420 - 10/03/16 05:06 AM Re: CH Mach I+ [Re: NamelessPFG]  
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Originally Posted By: NamelessPFG
What's with the 7-pin DIN on that Mach I pictured above, though? That's no IBM PC joystick, and it certainly isn't any other joystick interface I know of!


That is a damn good question! I don't know what to make of that.

I do remember that the original IBM PC did not come with a game port... you had to add one via an expansion board. In my case (An IBM PC2 MB), it was an AST Six pack card that added the game, serial and parallel ports, a real time clock / calendar and room for 384K of DRAM chips so that the total DRAM could be brought up to a whopping 640K. wink

There are other entries for CH Products Mach 1 sticks, and their pictures show standard game port plugs.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-MACH-I-J...N-/272224124649

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-MACH-I-J...N-/252560140252

#4300477 - 10/03/16 01:52 PM Re: CH Mach I+ [Re: Sokol1]  
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I can't recall if I ever owned that stick, but I know I used one at some point.

I'm scratching my head on that connector, too. Did they ever make these sticks for other systems? The box says IBM PC, but perhaps that box doesn't match the stick and it's for an Amiga or something?



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#4300503 - 10/03/16 02:46 PM Re: CH Mach I+ [Re: Sokol1]  
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The joystick interface I believe predates IBM PCs... not sure, 'cos I wasn't around back then biggrin But for what I get from watching retro videos on YT, that's a pretty common joystick interface back in the Commodore and before era.


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#4300681 - 10/04/16 06:11 AM Re: CH Mach I+ [Re: Sokol1]  
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I had a Tandy 1000 with that port. Let me google around...

Had a couple of Kraft sticks like this.



I had the Intel 8088 4.77MHz . The one pictured is a TX which had a 80286. The case looked exactly the same.




Shows the inside of the Kraft stick...

https://www.pololu.com/docs/0J59/all


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